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SoCon is so off its rocker

Alert the police!!! This man was ROBBED!!!The 2007-08 season was, no doubt, the year of Curry.

The baby-faced assassin led Davidson to being one three-pointer shy of a Final Four berth. He had a smooth stroke. A winning smile. And, gosh golly darn, an All-American attitude.

When it came time for the SoCon to crown its top male athlete of the year, it was understandable that the roundball star won out over App State’s everything AE. Sure, the Wolverine Killer had his own headlines and a second national title, but the Curry Show was just so darn cute! We just wanted to pinch his cheek ourselves!

That was then. And, sadly, that is now. Uh-gin.

Even though AE was last seen carrying a bust of Walter Payton after yet another SoCon dominating season and a respectable run in the playoffs, he was outdone by a superstar who didn’t even make the league championship and was last seen getting his MC Brains on.

That’s right. This week the SoCon named its top male athlete the guy who’s opting out his senior year. Blasphemy!

Curry becomes the first male athlete to win the award in back to back years since Appalachian State’s Dexter Coakley took home the award in 1996 and 1997. A junior guard for Davidson’s men’s basketball team in 2008-09, Curry was a consensus first team All-American and led the nation in scoring with 28.6 points per game. He was first team all-conference and the league’s Player of the Year for the second consecutive season. It is the sixth time the award has gone to a Davidson Wildcat and the 22nd time the winner has been from men’s basketball.

During his junior season Curry became the league’s all-time leading scorer with 2,635 career points. He was named the league Player of the Week eight times in 2008-09 and earned Player of the Month accolades three times. Curry is fourth in career three pointers with 414.

All AE did was:

– Rush for 941 yards and 11 touchdowns, while completing 64 percent of his passes for 2,902 yards and 30 touchdowns

– Finish second nationally in passing efficiency, seventh in total offense (296 yards per game, 3,843 total yards) and 11th in passing yards

– Complete 29-of-41 passes for a school-record 433 yards and four touchdowns in a playoff game against SC State

– Overtake Richie “THE Man!” Williams as the all-time leader in offensive yards in SoCon history

– In a ESPN-televised Helloween game against Wofford complete 17 of 19 passes for 367 yards and five touchdowns, and rush for another 73 yards and one TD rushing – in THREE quarters and a series

Oh, and his Walter Payton vote margin was “one of the most lopsided Payton Award races in history with 53 first-place votes and 398 points.”

Again, we cry, blasphemy!

/grumblegrumblegrumble

Oh, and just so you know, “The Athlete of the Year Awards are selected annually by the Southern Conference athletics directors and a media member representing each conference school.”

/boooooooooooooooooooo

/hissssssssssssssssssssssss

/booooooooooooooooooo

/grumblegrumblegrumble

There is this … MAN it feels good to hate Davidson again!

56 Comments

  1. Dan

    May 29, 2009 at 9:55 am

    If AE really feels slighted, i'm sure he can just flash his NCAA title ringS at Steph 🙂

  2. dynast3

    May 29, 2009 at 11:01 am

    At the end of the day these two remarkable star athletes play two different sports. Both possess numbers which outshine their nearest competition, but in trying to argue football and basketball statistics as a means of declaring who is the best athlete you'll never make heads or tails of it. A better determinate is who brought more publicity to the SoCon this year. I'd give Curry the edge in that department. Had Armanti stayed healthy and the Apps made another title run then I think it might be a different outcome. But, need we forget, the last memory of Armanti this season was him going down in a ball of fire as he made mistake after mistake against Richmond in the playoffs, and to make matters worse, at HOME! Curry was a one man show at Davidson this season and led them to the NIT and almost the NCAA tourney again. It's close, but THIS year I think Stephen deserved it by a hair over AE. Now, I would argue that AE was more deserving last year, but that's a whole other story.

  3. Jamey

    May 29, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Well I guess that is just more motivation for AE to win a 2nd Payton award and get Athlete Of The Year in the upcoming year. Sounds like a plan to me!

  4. clayton

    May 29, 2009 at 11:19 am

    …on one leg

  5. Flashman

    May 29, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Terrible injustice. Hell, Jayson Foster should have won it over Curry in 2007=08. I guess the media just loves those preppies from Davidson.

  6. Sec 111

    May 29, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    You are right Jason Foster was outrageous.

    AE there is a new hill to climb !!

  7. App n Greenwood

    May 29, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Just another reason to get out of the SoCon

  8. Glenn Alspaugh

    May 29, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Hooray for the SMALLCON

  9. App n Greenwood

    May 29, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Go class of 71

  10. patrick

    May 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    people, we all love AE but you are drinking some strong juice if you think he deserves player of the year over steph curry. its not even close. and who made the silly comment about getting out of the socon?? where are we gonna go?? come on guys. we all love our school and want them to succeed but we need to keep things in perspective.

  11. clayton

    May 29, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    I have a hunch that SoCon player of the year has more to do with hype than anything. It would be interesting to see how often the winner is either a football or men's basketball player.

  12. hapapp

    May 29, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Well before Curry won it twice, the last to do so was an ASU football player.

    We all would have liked AE to win and he certainly is deserving. However, an equally strong case could be made for Curry. He elevated Davidson to national prominence after his NCAA performance in 07-08 and this year lead the nation in scoring for a portion of the season. Certainly at the national level, Curry is far better known than AE.

    It seems every time the conference doesn't agree with ASU fans on an issue or a selection, we rush to the conclusion that it is some sort of conspiracy or is indicative of an anti-ASU bias.

  13. Dan

    May 29, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Patrick, I understand how you could have a dissenting opinion, but to suggest that it's not even close is ludicrous. To go back to a point that others have made – Curry didn't even win NPOY in his sport (AE did) and they both put up ridiculous numbers. I would have been fine with each one winning the honor once, but to double up Curry in a year he couldn't get his team to the NCAAs is a stretch at best.

  14. hapapp

    May 29, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    National Player of the Year is the equivalent of the Heisman in football. AE wasn't even given consideration for that award.

  15. CDiddy

    May 29, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    "MAN it feels good to hate Davidson again!" Again? When did you stop? That's like reducing hate for Georgia Southern. Screw Davidson, and Curry. Glad he's going pro to ride the pine. AE deserved the award, Curry didn't win the SoCon (AE did–which is harder to do in football than SoCon bball). Give me a break. Again, screw Davidson.

  16. Dan

    May 29, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    He won the Walter Payton award, it's the equivalent trophy for the division he plays in.

  17. Gwaltineer

    May 30, 2009 at 6:12 am

    It should not be about hype. Take out ESPN and AE wins this award

  18. patrick

    May 30, 2009 at 6:30 am

    AE doesn't even play at the highest level for his sport. And AE had a Far, Far better team supporting him than Curry did. AE would not even see the field if he played with the big boys in the SEC or ACC. Curry would have started on every single team in the ACC and SEC…..including the tar holes. He was the best two guard bar none in the country and he will be a lottery pick in the draft. AE is not in the same planet when you talk about QB's in the big time……Tebow, McCoy, Bradford, etc. Loyalty is a great thing everyone, but don't let it cloud your reason.

  19. dynast3

    May 30, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Patrick, well said. All everyone needs to know is that there are 347 D-I college hoops teams as opposed to just 126 FCS football teams. Curry faced a depth of competition in his sport that isn't even close to being rivaled by AE.

  20. Drew

    May 30, 2009 at 7:36 am

    "AE would not even see the field if he played with the big boys in the SEC or ACC"

    Actually, he probably would get some playing time even if it was not at QB. You mean to tell me last year's Virginia, UNC, Duke, Wake or State would not have utilized him somewhere on the field at all? Please. Its one thing to keep things in reason, its quite another to dismiss AE's abilities all together.

  21. Dan

    May 30, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Good call on downgrading AE – he'd never orchestrate a win over an FBS school on the field anyway… You have to look at this award in the context of the SoCon and this is a 1-AA football conference and plain and simple, AE is a man among boys in this conference. You can argue that Curry is for his sport as well, but you cannot convince me he deserved that award twice with someone like AE out there both years.

  22. Derek

    May 30, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    I agree Dan, if you look at it in the realm of the SoCon only, there is no comparison to me! The SoCon football conference is way more competitive than SoCon bball! If Curry was that big of a player, then Davidson should have made the Big Dance with an at large bid, but that didn't happen. And we can't go on what we saw the last time we saw AE on the field, the whole season has to be factored in. If the award givers want to go on one game, then the Helloween game from last year would be the decision maker for AE, and the year before that would be the 313 rushing yard game against Richmond. Like I said, I don't think there is any comparison!

  23. Gwaltineer

    May 30, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    the bottom line is when an award like this is close between to athletes, they should always go with the guy who would win in a cage match. AE got robbed.

  24. patrick

    May 30, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    the award is for socon players, yes. but it still takes into account performance out of conference. curry led his team to big wins over power conference teams (including wvu who was a pretty darn good team this past year). and keep in mind that curry wasn't even playing his natural position this past year. let me reiterate what i said earlier: curry was the best guard in the entire country. he was a first team all american and led the country in scoring. you are simply out of your mind.

  25. Gwaltineer

    May 30, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    name somebody other than WVU.

  26. Dan

    May 30, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    He may have been the best 2 guard in the country (no way he was the best point) but Gwaltineer is right, who did Davidson beat besides a beat up WVU team? AE, by the way, once beat a team that finished up the football season ranked in the AP top 25 and defeated a ranked Florida team in a bowl game. And as far as him having a superior team around him, consider how the 2nd team in the 3-peat started out w/ Trey Elder @ QB. The past two national titles don't happen and Michigan sure as hell doesn't w/o AE. Besides, i still say that if Steph Curry is so awesome, he should have at least been able to lead his team to the NCAAs. Not necessarily win a game, but at least get in. Couldn't do that. So I guess in retrospect, Jason Richards deserved that first SC Male Athelete of the Year award Curry snagged. Davidson didn't make it too far w/o him, did they?

  27. docsny

    May 30, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    who really cares about SC basketball? ASU vs Davidson BB (largest crowd ever or close)…was mostly boring!….cant wait for ECU…the Pirates are going down and we WILL be back in Chattanooga….AE is the Man

  28. Jon

    May 30, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    After the LSU game, the guys on the LSU sports radio show were talking about how AE would start at QB or WR for at least 5 SEC teams.

  29. hapapp

    May 31, 2009 at 4:54 am

    And Curry would start for every team in the country.

    Yes, AE lead ASU to the historic win over Michigan his sophomore year. But Curry took his Davidson team to the brink of the final four in the same year. I do think a better case could be made for AE this year compared to Curry but our failure to repeat as champs may have cost him.

    Both were deserving athletes of the award. We think it should/could have been AE. It wasn't, I can live with that. Perhaps, 200-2010 will be the year.

  30. Flashman

    May 31, 2009 at 9:15 am

    I know damn well that AE could start for Virginia Tech over Tyrod "I've Stunk Up More Stadiums Than Bad Chili" Taylor and if he'd played for Auburn or Tennessee Tommy Tuberville and Phil Fulmer would still have jobs.

  31. Gwaltineer

    May 31, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    AE would have started for any ACC team, not just VT. As a soph he would have started for any ACC team but BC.

  32. patrick

    June 1, 2009 at 5:36 am

    this is what dan said: "So I guess in retrospect, Jason Richards deserved that first SC Male Athelete of the Year award Curry snagged. Davidson didn’t make it too far w/o him, did they?
    "

    dan, are you really that stupid??

    and to some other commenters, if ae played in the sec/acc he would be injured and broken. he could not survive the pounding of an sec/acc schedule. he is oft injured in the socon. come on, get real.

  33. Derek

    June 1, 2009 at 7:25 am

    Ok patrick, we'll see just how long Curry makes it in the NBA. Even if he's going to sit out a year, I don't see him being an impact player or a player that will last more than five years. He's just not good enough at that level.

  34. Fish

    June 1, 2009 at 7:33 am

    "It is the sixth time the award has gone to a Davidson Wildcat and the 22nd time the winner has been from men’s basketball."

    seems pretty biased to me

  35. Dan

    June 1, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Patrick, i'm not sure if i'm really that stupid, but it does occur to me that Davidson was a MUCH better team w/ Richards than w/o him. I am also not so stupid to suggest that AE doesn't even belong in the conversation for SoCon athelete of the year either.

  36. Joe

    June 1, 2009 at 8:05 am

    Patrick, do you know that for a fact? AE is a tough kid, and does take some big hits.. but if you are going on that premise, you have to look at the other side of it..

    If the hitting is so much harder at the "big boy" level, then so is blocking.. better blocking = less hits..

    so..

    patrick, are you really that stupid?

  37. DRM

    June 1, 2009 at 8:52 am

    There are several teams in every BCS conference that would start Edwards, and at QB.

    And no way Curry starts for "any team in the country." Most, probably, but not any and every. He lead the country in scoring in a very weak league; that's why he's a first-team all-American. VMI led–or came close to leading–the country in scoring, but that doesn't mean they could do that, or even be competitive, in a better league. Consider what Curry did–or didn't do–against better competition, even in the NIT. Not much, particularly when one considers shooting percentage. He shot 47% in a narrow first-round win over South Carolina, but then went 11 of 27 (40%) in a 12-point second round loss to St. Mary's–and St. Mary's then promptly lost to San Diego State. Note that I still haven't mentioned any top-level D1 basketball teams here.

    Curry will be another JJ Redick in the NBA–an occasional contributor, little more. Even Redick arguably plays better defense than Curry.

  38. patrick

    June 1, 2009 at 9:34 am

    ok dan, so according to your rationale then corey lynch should have been player of the year…or maybe dexter jackson….or maybe one of the other departing players. i mean when they were on the team we won a championship. now that they were gone ae couldn't even lead his team to the semis…..great point there dan.

    and joe, are we not by the very nature of this convesation speaking in hypotheticals? this is a forum of opinions. what a stupid question…..ae playing in a big boy league doesn't mean he gets hit any more or less. the blocking is roughly the same relative to the level of play in a given league. ae would just be getting hit by bigger guys running faster and hitting harder. he is not a pocket qb, which means he is going to run and take shots. and when you run and take as many shots as ae does with his fearless style, unless you're tim tebow you're not going to last a season. a couple years ago app upset michigan, did ae come out the week or two after michigan and play like his normal self??? nope, he sat on the bench nursing injuries. try again joe.

  39. Gwaltineer

    June 1, 2009 at 9:44 am

    patrick, you're not goign to get very far on any argument bashing AE's toughness. He would do very well as a QB at any college in the country.
    and thank's for explaining to all of us that he is not a pocket QB. I was confused on that one.
    As the FCS football player of the year, and since the SoCon is an FCS football conference, he deserved a lot of consideration for the SoCon Male Athelete of the year. You can argue Curry, but anyone, epseically on this site, has plenty of ground to aregue AE.

  40. Joe

    June 1, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Patrick, could ae have played? Yes, but we were playing lower level competition and had faith in our backup (who could have started at 90% of all fcs schools) trey elder..

    I am simply just stating the opposite of what you are.. there are two sides to every story, and for you to call someone stupid on this "forum of opinions" because they have a different opinion than you, is rather, childish..

  41. Joe

    June 1, 2009 at 9:59 am

    And if the hitting is by bigger and faster players, isnt the blocking? Or are you trying to tell me that only LBs and Safetys are bigger and faster.. the Oline is still the same size regardless of the level?

    You're right, he isn't a pocket qb.. either is pat white, tim tebow, or the dude from ga tech (cant think of his name right now).. what is your point?

  42. Dan

    June 1, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Patrick, all i'm doing is presenting a contrarian argument about Curry. He didn't win anything! AE, on the other hand, has won the SoCon 3 years in a row and 2 national titles. He also sets a ton of records and will most likely end up 2nd on all-time yards for an FCS QB. Just trying to illustrate that, as you say, "it's not even close" between AE and Curry is a pretty inaccurate statement.

  43. patrick

    June 1, 2009 at 11:19 am

    ok, this has been fun while it lasted but i will just leave it where it is. we have differing opinions and could go back and forth forever.

    one comment i want to address address, however: Gwaltineer, i never questioned ae's toughness. questioning one's longevity due to their playing style is much different than questioning their toughness. make sure you read closely before you respond.

  44. clayton

    June 1, 2009 at 11:41 am

    clayton could start for any team in the country.

  45. Derek

    June 1, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Here's how I see it, Curry led his team to an Elite 8 one season (flash in the pan), AE led his team to 2 out of 3 consecutive FCS championships in his Freshman and Sophomore years mind you (the real deal)! Bottom line!

  46. Derek

    June 1, 2009 at 11:56 am

    BTW, clayton, I like the humorous posts, keep 'em coming!

  47. Dan

    June 1, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Patrick, it's been fun, try not to go too crazy waiting for the start of Davidson basketball this year.

  48. Gwaltineer

    June 1, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Toughness and logevity don't have anything to do with each other?

  49. hapapp

    June 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    For the past two seasons AE has been injured at some point. That doesn't suggest he isn't tough but rather it says his style of play lends itself to spending time on the shelf. That's not a criticism of AE but just a reflection of his game.

    No question, from an individual standpoint I think AE was deserving of the award this year. Unfortunately, Curry had garnered a national reputation that AE doesn't have. His performances his soph year in the NCAA tournament cemented his stature as a national level player. My guess he will be a first round pick. I don't know how he will fare in the NBA. I suspect he has a lot of maturing to do. However, we can only dream that any ASU athlete will be a first round pick.

    None that means that Curry should be the POY over AE, but I don't think we should dismiss him as a flash in the pan.

  50. Michael

    June 1, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    While I think AE's outstanding season combined with his two rings give him an edge over Curry, it's not as though he lost out to someone who was all style and no substance. Saying otherwise shows an extreme lack of perspective.

    Stephen Curry has to be the best SoCon basketball player in a generation. Someone help me out: when was the last time the SoCon had an All-American?

    If AE has a season anything like he did last year, and especially if he caps it off with yet another national title, he should be a shoo-in next year.

  51. Derek

    June 1, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    hapapp, don't get me wrong, I hope that Curry can make it. But he's only right at 6 feet tall, right? If he was closer to 7 feet tall and playing like he plays, then I would pay more attention to him. A 6 foot player in the NBA these days usually gets eaten for lunch.

  52. Flashman

    June 2, 2009 at 5:29 am

    Stephen Curry is no Willie White. He couldn't carry his jockstrap. He's only a notch above Mister Jennings.

  53. Joe

    June 2, 2009 at 5:33 am

    Michael, i think it was 2003 or 2004 Brendan Winters was an all american at Davidson.. I think 3rd team, so not quite the same, but still a socon AA

  54. Joe

    June 2, 2009 at 6:04 am

    After some research, Winters was an AA Honorable mention.. there are 50 of those every year, so not quite as impressive as I initially thought.. I am pretty sure Tim Smith of ETSU and Kyle Hines were also Honorable Mentions at some point in their collegiate careers

  55. DRM

    June 2, 2009 at 7:45 am

    Curry is supposedly 6' 3"–still small, especially given his thin frame, to be a full-time two-guard in the NBA. And he isn't good enough at point to play that spot at the NBA level.

  56. appfreak14

    June 4, 2009 at 11:32 am

    This should have been an easy one for Armanti by a long shot. He has 2 national titles, better offensive stats, and an upset of one of the biggest college football schools in the country in Michigan. But NOOOO!! They choose a guy who failed to even make a Final Four, win a championship, and who failed to make it to the tourney this year. It makes no sense. To me, I think it's all bias by the voting committee and the fact that they are sucked into the media's views of a guy who was in their minds the greatest underdog in the world in a tournament run. Let me remind you media members and voting committee members that we were heavy underdogs in a game on September 1, 2007 at the Big House and that Armanti helped lead us to an unprecedented victory in the minds of the world in that game. That also changed the course of a Michigan team who struggled to get their heads on straight after that devastating loss. That is the biggest underdog story and he rightfully deserves that award. End of Debate!

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