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This just in, App State better than ECU

8 days!The Jeff Sagarin preseason NCAA football ratings are out. According to its series of complex formulas, educated guesses and a dart board, App State is the 68th best team in D1 foozball. ECU comes in at … /dramatic pause … 73.


  1. Chuck

    August 27, 2009 at 7:09 am

    I didn't need a poll to know that! GO ASU!

  2. Dan

    August 27, 2009 at 7:11 am

    Anybody here planning on shelling out the $17 (per person!) and doing the App-sponsored ECU tailgate in Greenville?

  3. Ry_ATO

    August 27, 2009 at 7:40 am

    I don't believe that preseason rankngs mean anything. I hope I am still allowed to post after I say this but I believe the Michigan game proved that. I just believe anyone can be beaten any day and thats why you play the game. There shouldn't be rankings until they have played a few games.

  4. Russ Davis

    August 27, 2009 at 7:40 am

    I have 12 of us going, and we all are tailgating with theApp sponsored thing. easier than doing it ourselves…although I am sure we will bring extra libations for consumption

  5. clayton

    August 27, 2009 at 7:48 am

    I've never paid $17 for breakfast.

  6. random dude

    August 27, 2009 at 7:59 am

    Chuck is a wise man

  7. Hamilton

    August 27, 2009 at 8:27 am

    This is old news. These ratings have been out at least 7 days.

  8. Geoff

    August 27, 2009 at 8:53 am

    There are 10 of us taking part in the ASU-sponsored tailgate. I will still be bringing flags (plural if my new one gets here from the AppFan Store in time), a canopy, chairs, music and libations. i was planning on just heading over to the "official" tailgate for food (and two beverages) so we didn't have to bring the grill and utensils all the way to Greenville. unless the party is booming…then we will just stay there and get our money's worth.

  9. mark

    August 27, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Pre season polls means nothing….
    Three of us got tickets and plan to attend after we set the morning off right with some cold ones before hand…

  10. Jamey

    August 27, 2009 at 9:47 am

    My crowd is planning to shell out the $17. There will be around 8 of us showing up in full ASU gear. Hope to actually meet some of you fine folks during the festivities.

  11. Geoff

    August 27, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Can someone create an official AppFan shirt or wristband (like a Livestrong) or something so if i see a fellow AppFan'er out and about i know who they are?

  12. Dan

    August 27, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Good call Geoff. My group's considering heading over there – primarily out of concern for stuff being vandalized by the lovely denizens of Greenville we've heard so much about. One of the guys in our group made some cool cornhole boards we'd have to see wrecked, esp. during football season.

  13. Van

    August 27, 2009 at 10:35 am

    I did a double take on an "Armantistrong" tee shirt some one had on at Fanfest….I'm certain i'm behind the times, but that was first time seeing that one…forgive tardiness to the party.
    ASU 90'
    retired DM of NC'sBOD


    August 27, 2009 at 10:46 am

    OK OK I almost choked on that one. Take a look at the ESPN.COM rankings for top 25 Pre season… I think that is…. is that? It is ECU with 30 votes for top 25….Hey, and look, there is App State right there with… well..they didn't make the page at all. Neither did Davidson's JV team. What's that tell ya? Who voted on this poll? Everyone at the Math building on campus yesterday between the hours of 1 and 3 pm? Leave the voting to the pros.

  15. Joe

    August 27, 2009 at 11:08 am

    The pros who almost always never get the preseason votes right? Ok, I will leave it to them.. doesn't matter to us either way.. shouldn't matter for you either — you're not going to win a championship!

  16. appmaj

    August 27, 2009 at 11:13 am


    ESPN are the experts??? Good one; Whats that poll based on? Any real facts or Dr. Lou's homerism????

  17. Jamey

    August 27, 2009 at 11:14 am

    I was thinking about just grabbing some of those stick-on nametags and throwing then on any of the current Appfans that I already know. I know for sure that Appfan Robert and Appfan JC will be in attendance. And my money is on Appfan Wright and Appfan DA also making appearances with my band of gypsies.

  18. Dan

    August 27, 2009 at 11:21 am

    reality check – worthless preseason rankings aside, we will see who the better team is on the field in just under 9 days. In the meantime, congrats on being in the "others receiving votes" category on a top 25 poll, i'm sure that's what Holtz is shooting for down there.

  19. DRM

    August 27, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Who voted on this poll? Who VOTED??? Keep up, will ya, reality? Otherwise, just confine your posts to the purple blogs.

  20. sec111

    August 27, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Polls mean NOTHING…. But Vegas Points I listen too. 8 points of which 3 are for home team, that leaves us with "5" points as the ECU advantage according to Vegas. I'd say thats a REAL close game if the ref's don't try to steal the game for the Pirates !!!!!!!!!!!

    GO APPS…….FIGHT APPS….Kick Purple Pirate A$$

  21. Mike

    August 27, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Not a poll purple boy, a rating. And we are rated higher than you. Our SATs are higher too. And our Dean's List QB is smarter than yours. Our campus is nicer too, and our town is better. And on Sept 5th, we are taking you down.

  22. appfantoo

    August 27, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Not paying any fee to attend any 'official' tailgate – we will officially be raising h#ll about 20 strong smack-dab in the middle of the Pirate Club tailgate area.

    Hopefully we won't cause a schism.

  23. Gwaltineer

    August 27, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    i think the fact that someone is so excited about getting 30 votes, he'd go to another team's site and yell about it is a reality check

  24. Dan

    August 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but thought i'd post this for reality check. From Doyle at Sportsline:

    East Carolina's chancellor, Steve Ballard, issued a web statement to the masses about the school's financial woes. The title was "ECU's budget picture," and Ballard's statement began like this:

    "The budget picture is bleak …"

    He predicted "dramatic cutbacks that will affect every aspect of our mission" as he projected the school's potential budget shortage at being close to $60 million. But still the ECU football team has been spending tens of thousands of dollars to spend the Friday night before home games in a local hotel. Why? Because the ECU football coach has apparently convinced the ECU chancellor that, without the night in the hotel room, his players might morph into absolute morons.

    I present this statement as open season to all for some jokes. Enjoy.

  25. piratefan09

    August 27, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Hey dan nobody thinks its funny

  26. Ry_ATO

    August 27, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    The night in the hotel together for the home team is pretty common practice.

  27. Dan

    August 27, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    yeah, the article he wrote was pretty illuminating about it, no effing wonder so many of these guys are losing money.

  28. ggergg30

    August 28, 2009 at 1:25 am

    To REALITYCHECK, this particular preseason poll is based on the Sagarin Ratings, right? The same computer generated model that picks YOUR National Champ, right? We decide ours on the field, as this game shall also be decided. I think some of that Kentucky BlueGrass is still stuck in your facemask from the Bowl Kicking the 'Cats put on the swishbucklers last season.

  29. appfanmidwest

    August 28, 2009 at 3:30 am

    I don't think it matters if the ECU team stays at the Ritz Carlton or in a tent village, we're going to Greenville to kick some ass!! Let's go Mountaineers. Fans- get your asses to Greenville to support the team.

    "I've always told you if you party hard and cheer hard for the mountaineers, I'll pick your ass up off the field when you pass out."

  30. #1 App fan Conover N

    August 28, 2009 at 3:53 am

    We are planning on being in Greenville next Friday night. Doe's anyone know where the App fans will be partying?

  31. Jamey

    August 28, 2009 at 5:19 am

    Greenville is getting BLACKED OUT beeatttches!

    That's so cute that the purple pirates all snuggle in their hotel rooms the night before games. Does Coach Holtz read them all a bedtime story about when Daddy Lou still had a functioning brain and knew how to coach?

  32. asu7

    August 28, 2009 at 5:28 am

    I will be with you APPFANTOO … we will be gating in that area as well with some EZU alums … I was told I could not bring my tent but I could bring my flags … If you see a ugly colored tent with some black and gold App flags then that will be me! Right there in the middle of the enemy!

    Ready to attack some purple loving pyrates …

  33. Dan

    August 28, 2009 at 5:44 am

    Wow Jamey, props for you wearing black down there, i was going to go with a lighter color due to heat, but you're making me re-think that.

  34. DRM

    August 28, 2009 at 5:48 am

    If ASU sequestered the team in a hotel (or somewhere) before home games, there'd be no concerns such as those rumors (facts?) about some members of the team partying before the Richmond game last year.

    Regarding the budget woes–NCAA is reportedly considering legislation (proposed by the PAC 10, I believe) that would outlaw the practice of housing teams in hotels the night before a home game. If I were a coach, I would be adamantly opposed to such a change.

  35. Geoff

    August 28, 2009 at 6:10 am

    We will be in Greenville Friday night as well. we are staying at the Quality Inn- Greenville (on South Memorial Drive) so if there are any interesting areas with cold beverages within walking distance to that hotel…that's where we shall be!

  36. Geoff

    August 28, 2009 at 6:12 am

    Oh yeah…i think preseason polls are about as important as preseason games except without the benefit of seeing how your starters look this year (for the first 2 possessions).
    Let Your Game Speak

  37. Jon

    August 28, 2009 at 10:50 am

    ECU is a much better team and App. State is going to lose. Your not a D-1 school, ECU is, and the pirates are going to embarrass the mountaineers.

  38. Dan

    August 28, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Actually, we are D-1 and your assessment of the game i think illustrates your overall lack of knowledge about football. Are the odds in favor of ECU winning? Yes, absolutely. Embarrassment? That's a bit of a stretch.


    August 28, 2009 at 11:12 am

    ECU 31
    APP 6


    August 28, 2009 at 11:14 am

    you guys are too funny. I think our wallet is a little fatter folks. also…is your Candain Football League bound QB still mowing lawns?
    I need some brush cleared in the woods near my house but I need him to sign a waiver first!!!!!!!!!Dummy!!!!

  41. Dan

    August 28, 2009 at 11:24 am

    guys please, go back to trolling UNC's boards, they're the ones responsible for your inferiority complex anyway…

  42. Joe

    August 28, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Is your CFL bound, if he's lucky, still playing football at 46 years old? What's your point?

  43. clayton

    August 28, 2009 at 11:28 am

    caps lock

  44. Jamey

    August 28, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Armanti Edwards has done more in NCAA football in 3 years than Pinckney has in his entire 6 year career. Has he at least tacked on that Dr. Pinckney title since he was basically enrolled when ECU was founded?

    Pinckney and Skippy Holtz are still having delusions of grandeur about actually having some shot at national prominence. Meanwhile, Appalachian State has had more national press in the past 5 years than any other program in North Carolina. "We beat West Virginia and Virginia Tech!" Yeah…then you choked on it and blew your shot at making some waves in college football.

  45. Pete

    August 28, 2009 at 11:53 am

    APP State 31
    ECU 17

  46. skully

    August 28, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    ECU 38
    ASU 13

  47. ASU91

    August 28, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    ECU 38
    ASU 21

  48. Jamey

    August 28, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    ASU 27
    ECU 24

  49. clayton

    August 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    App 100
    ECU -2

  50. piratepride09

    August 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    asu 0

  51. piratepride09

    August 28, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    yeah jamey i forgot Armanti has to go up against that stout Furman defense. I'd hate to see what he could do against VT.

  52. clayton

    August 28, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Well, Mr. or Mrs. Pride that is just un called for. ALl of us are putting what we genuninely believe the final score of the game will be, and you come and throw up a random imposssible number.


  53. Jon

    August 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    ECU 27
    Apple State 9

  54. piratepride09

    August 28, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    thas funny clayton i didnt know you could score -2 points

  55. Jon

    August 28, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    ECU is going to punish the mountaineers, EMBARRASS is the word, and that's what's going to happen! I understand school spirit, but you Apple fans are in for a huge disappointment if you actually think your going to win this game!

  56. Josh Brown

    August 28, 2009 at 3:03 pm

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  57. Josh Brown

    August 28, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    On a lighter note, if Edwards is healthy, I think this could be a close game. I'll make no predictions, but I think this game will be close contest until the end.

  58. Dan

    August 28, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Funny that ECU is favored to win the game, yet all the little purple pirate fans need to come to our board to justify their team and trash ours.

  59. Jamey

    August 29, 2009 at 4:29 am

    piratepride….go take your QB his AARP membership card and keep wishing you had an athlete like Edwards taking the snaps for you. And always remember that Holtz is just one good season away from making ECU a distant memory on his mediocre coaching resume.

  60. JBreezy

    August 29, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Someone better help out Josh Brown or all hell is going to break loose.

    It's the first game of the year, thus it has been overhyped.

    East Carolina 41
    App. State 13

  61. skully

    August 30, 2009 at 6:13 am

    Not that physical presence means everything, however…………
    ECU avg. Offensive line 310lb
    ECU avg. Defensive line 296lb

    ASU has one 300lb guy on the entire team.
    Take note….ECU will gradually wear down ASU throughout the game.
    Easy win for Pirates!!

  62. Pete

    August 30, 2009 at 7:46 am

    Hate to look back, when this game is less than a week away but….
    Michigan was bigger than ECU on both sides of the ball. Eight (8) Michigan players were taken in the NFL draft….including the overall #1 pick Jake Long. Chad Hene was a 4year starter all Big Ten, All American. Mike Hart was all Big Ten , All American and so was Long. Point being ECU may win the Game, But APP State will come to play…

  63. crzyfrnk

    August 30, 2009 at 8:19 am

    hey skully……haven't you heard that speed kills

  64. app student

    August 30, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Hey everyone should wear a black app shirt to the game! yes it might be hotter but its the most contrasting to their yellow purple loving selves

  65. piratefan09

    August 30, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Haha yeah crzyfrnk speed does kill but so do lawnmowers

  66. Dick

    August 30, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Go APP!

  67. fuckecu

    August 30, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    App 28
    Ecu 21

  68. GoldandPurp

    August 31, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Seriously looking forward to this weekend! Hope all you App fans have safe travels down to Greenville! This will probably be a GREAT game. 2 teams who are pretty much fighting for the same thing, respect and claim to the title of best team in NC. Best of luck guys, come get some! 🙂

  69. Dan

    August 31, 2009 at 4:11 am

    wow, a perfectly reasonable ECU fan in cyberspace, who knew that existed? Thanks goldandpurp, here's hoping it's a good game.


    August 31, 2009 at 4:54 am

    I love it! I am just ready for the season to begin. I love college football..period. This will be a good game and good job for ECU to put this game on the schedule. Looks good for them to accept the challenges that they constantly go after themselves with bigger programs. I am calling…
    ECU 31
    APP 24
    ECU 34
    APP 14

    Let the game decide the outcome and the better team. You guys just be there and support your sides 🙂

  71. StuckinLodi

    August 31, 2009 at 5:55 am

    Where are APP fans partying on Friday evening/night? I've never been to Greenville before.

  72. dudemanhey

    August 31, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    This is a great match-up, i am ready to go to Greenville right now! Respect to ECU for scheduling ASU and i hope this could potentially be the start of great in-state rivalry. With the renovations to The Rock maybe ECU will come up to Boone in the future too.


    APP 31
    ECU 30

    See y'all in Greenville!

  73. piratefan09

    August 31, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    bottomline: if we play to our potential app wont score

  74. Dan

    August 31, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    if that's the case, ECU doesn't play to its potential a whole lot, esp. not against State.

  75. appnaysayer

    August 31, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    1975: In no particular order: Wake goes down on a field goal with 17 ticks left; South Carolina falls to the Apps in Columbia. New turf at Conrad; ECU's blood all over it and another Mountaineer win.

    2009: Hoping for a healthy Armanti and a defense that can shut down ECU's running game. If so….we might, as the Greek philosopher Heraclitus said, "step twice into the same river." Of course around Greenville it would be polluted with hog waste, but just the same….Sorry, that's all I got. In the words of the immortal James K. Flynn (for all you 70s grads), "Give 'em hell Apps!"

  76. piratefan09

    August 31, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    how bout we beat app by 50 and never hear from their hillbilly fans again

  77. mike

    August 31, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    AppSt is a 3 time Natl Champ. They know the big game. ECU has got the Big Head with Conference Champ '08. Neither team has good film. ASU dont fumble. IF ECU does they'll be run out of their own stadium.


  78. Welcome App Fans

    September 1, 2009 at 6:14 am

    Hey there App fans!!! Hoping everyone is sinching up the final pre-trip details and getting ready to party with the Pirates. 🙂 The best place to go is a newly renovated bar called Tavern on 4th. It is a 21 and older bar (smoke free) no idiots and very clean with great beer specials. Check it out. The owner is Judd Crumpler and he is an Ace!!!
    Looks to be great weather (Zip code for Greenville is 27858 in case you want to check on the temp for game day)
    Don't forget to go to Cubbie's for one of the best cheesesteaks and hush puppie baskets money can buy. It's a tradition 🙂
    Be safe and we will see you guys soon..

  79. DRM

    September 1, 2009 at 6:21 am

    PF09, LSU doesn't even beat App by 50, and the only similarity between ECU and LSU is that god-awful color your team wears.

  80. Dan

    September 1, 2009 at 6:37 am

    DRM, i think the best way to handle posts like that is to just ignore them.

  81. skully

    September 1, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    hey crzyfrnk- speed does kill! and that Michigan team did have big guys. However, ECU is big and fast. When all is said and done, this ECU team will be better than the Michigan team Appy played. If you go to the game keep an eye on #17!
    You will probably be surprised at the speed of ECU. I do believe it will be a great exciting game, but ECU runs away in the end. Good luck!

  82. JC

    September 2, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Fellows, you will be crushed in G-Town. Count on it.
    The year of the PIRATES!!!

  83. IratePirate

    September 2, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    The list of assumptions for Jeff Sagarin's NCAA football ratings must be ridiculous! App better bring their A-game SAT! Hope you all have a safe trip and a great time in Greenville. Who is ready for some college football? Fire up the BBQ, pop-a-top, and watch your team play Sat. Best time of the year!

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