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How do you feel about a Thursday night in Dirty 'Nooga?

miss youA couple weeks ago ‘Nooga opened up the SoCon football season at home with a Thursday night date against … /scratches head, flips pages, finds it … Glenville State.

And the locals found it quite good. The game attracted 14,002 fans, third largest in Mocs Finley history.

Oh, and they won too!

‘Nooga liked the deal so much, they’re looking to build it as a tradition. Thursday night in ‘Nooga! Must See Birdee!

Will it happen in 2010? Depends on App State’s opinion on mid-week dates. Apparently we’re opening the season with the Mocs. So says the AD.

Hart said the Mocs are opening the 2010 season with a home game against Appalachian State and he’d like for that to be a Thursday game, if the Mountaineers agree to it.

“I think it could be a neat game,” Hart said.

Southern Conference commissioner John Iamarino said the league has discussed playing on Thursdays in the past, but there hasn’t been much support for it among school presidents, athletic directors and coaches.

“They really protect those home dates, and the idea of taking it off of a Saturday when people can plan and make it easy to get there … it hasn’t resonated throughout the league,” Iamarino said.

The notion of opening 2010 at KBS West excites us for only one reason. How cool would it be to start a new season at the same place you ended the old one? /fingers crossed

MORE ON 2010: For the record, the big App State-Florida matchup next season is scheduled for Nov. 20. We believe that would be our regular-season finale, with the playoffs starting the next weekend.


  1. asu7

    September 17, 2009 at 5:39 am

    I don't think Charlie will do this … not really a reason I just don't see it happening.

  2. Mtnball

    September 17, 2009 at 5:47 am

    First game of the season…why not? Its not like it will be a short week you'll be coming out of the offseason…and it allows for an extra couple practices for game # 2…at Florida

  3. DRM

    September 17, 2009 at 5:50 am

    Appfan, let's make that "same place you ended the old one WITH A WIN." (Am I borderline superstitious? Yep, sometimes I am.)

    One way Thursday games would become much more acceptable to coaches and ADs would be to add TV coverage. Then there would be zero objection.

  4. Derek

    September 17, 2009 at 5:54 am

    So App is going to open the season with a Conference game? Isn't that out of the norm from the past? Is the open date gonna get moved?

  5. Geoff

    September 17, 2009 at 5:58 am

    Two wins in Chatty-town in two consecutive games…LETS DO IT!

  6. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 6:05 am

    Great, we get to go to Florida the week before the playoffs… let's get beat up a good bit against a larger opponent just in time to start playing for a title…

  7. Mike

    September 17, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Don't like it. First game of the season on a day that almost guarantees weak attendance from our fans. I'd have to say no thank you!

  8. asu7

    September 17, 2009 at 6:16 am

    I agree Mike … It is like UT and Florida … they play so early in the season that it can be deadly for either school … if UT loses they cannot win their division without help … Same goes for the Gators …

    Early conference games can be bad … Thursday would make it impossible for a lot of our fans …

  9. CHUCK

    September 17, 2009 at 6:36 am

    I have the utmost faith in our boys to compete with anyone, but I don't like the idea of playing UF right before the playoffs. Those games are fun, but they aren't our goal. If a key player or more get hurt down there then we enter the playoffs shorthanded.

  10. asu7

    September 17, 2009 at 6:38 am

    Chuck, we played LSU late in 2005 too. Those games are nuts but I think JM will think of this and if he sees we are going to get blown out he will pull the starters. At least I would hope we would.

  11. Frank

    September 17, 2009 at 6:38 am

    Do it

  12. Jamey

    September 17, 2009 at 7:00 am

    NO to the Thursday night game unless it is televised.

    And HELL NO to the idea of playing Florida the week before th playoffs.

  13. MikenATL

    September 17, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Isn't next year when the playoffs expand to 20 teams and therefore the top 12(??) teams get a bye in the playoffs?

  14. CHUCK

    September 17, 2009 at 8:10 am

    I hear you, asu7, but Jermaine Little got hurt in that game. Luckily he came back during the playoffs. I know our coaching staff would be on top of it, but you never know what might happen before the starters got pulled. But thats why you play the game I guess. Regardless, we raise number 4 this year!

  15. App n Greenwood

    September 17, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Is 2010 the year the SoCon increases it power rating by letting that powerhouse Presbyterian College in. Notice how many SoCon teams are playing them this year? It just keeps getting better and better.

  16. biggie

    September 17, 2009 at 8:45 am

    Only reason to play Chatty on a weeknight is if major TV picks it up for exposure.

  17. appfanmidwest

    September 17, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Once again, you losers care more about pulling the starters then giving Florida a good run. When are you going to stop getting your thrills out of beating up the JV squad. It would be like Tiger Woods playing a 20 handicapper every week. Eventually, he would get worse because he's not being challenged.

    FCS and the SoCon sucks. I'm sick of both of them. Nut up and go big time!

  18. DRM

    September 17, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Straight to the big-time C-USA, maybe? Or the even smaller big-time SunBelt?

    Greenwood, are SoCon teams outside SC playing Presbyterian? I haven't seen other teams' schedules.

  19. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Yes! I am sick of national titles!! I want to play for the Continental Tire trophy!

  20. App n Greenwood

    September 17, 2009 at 11:08 am

    DRM, The teams playing the Blue Hose are Furman, Elon, C'Nooga, The Citadel. PC is almost playing SoCon ball now. If we decide to remain division two, lets at least move to the Colonial.

  21. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 11:23 am

    we cannot "remain" what we are not now. There is a Division II but App does not play in it.

  22. Jamey

    September 17, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Stupid National Championships! I hate those things. I sure wish we could get in the mix and start scheduling some conference games with Rice, Tulsa, Tulane, Louisianna-Lafayette, Memphis…etc. Those would be way better than winning all those National Championships!

    As long as we are in the FCS, then we should play to WIN the FCS. Therefore, the idea of risking injury against Florida in the last game of the season is not intelligent. Herman Edwards said "You play to win the game." But Herman Edwards ain't got a single Lombardi Trophy to show for it. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE BIGGEST PRIZE OF THEM ALL BABY!

  23. richard86appgrad

    September 17, 2009 at 11:31 am

    OK DRM… Sunbelt would be a lower division FCS Conf. The limit of where would be accept. would be ConfUSA…. anything else would be latteral move (at best) and would cost millions … Not to mention the games would not be near as fun!!!!
    Hold tight .. CUSA is GOING to be realigned and when they are hard up for cash they know KBS ( with 30,000 fans ) would be low hanging fruit…
    Lets not get in a hurry and end up marrying an UGLY GIRL… We need to get our house better in order before the move!!!

  24. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 11:36 am

    You just compared the 10th rated conference according to Sagarin (CUSA) to the 12th rated (Sunbelt) Doesn't look a whole lot different to me…

  25. clayton

    September 17, 2009 at 11:38 am

    We're 0-2 in our last 2 FCS games, lets lay off the JV talk for a while.

    When I was a student, I hoped for a Thursday game. Partially, for a night but mainly so I would have an excuse to do nothing on Thursday and Friday.

  26. App n Greenwood

    September 17, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Yes, Dan, I do know that we are FCS or what a good many still call 1AA and what a good many more still refer to a Division II. Its a slap in the face, but thats the image.

  27. DRM

    September 17, 2009 at 11:57 am

    I'm not certain, but I think I agree with you richard86 (or that you sort of agree with me). SunBelt is ranked lower, if I'm not mistaken, than the Colonial; not a conference to which we should aspire. C-USA isn't much better, and is presently spread out from El Paso to Greenville (not to mention that it includes several of those tiny private schools Midwest hates). As presently structured, neither league is appealing.

    IF we move up (when NCAA moratoriums allow) and IF C-USA is realigned to provide more closer-to-home competition than just ECU and Marshall, then maybe that's where we should land. I'm happy competing for national titles, though, so I'm in no rush to go anywhere. However, though it won't happen, Greenwood's idea of moving to the CAA is something I would definitely support. Sadly, there's no question they're the far superior conference; I'm not even sure that SoCon is superior to OVC this year, and Big Sky is probably closer to our league than they've been in several years.

  28. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    CAA is ranked 13th, one spot behind Sun-Belt, but they (CAA that is) are 3 spots ahead of the SoCon.

  29. DRM

    September 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Hmmmm . . . so which conference is #11? Is it the MAC?

    Oh, sorry–I can obviously look that up myself.

  30. App n Greenwood

    September 17, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    The SoCon at one time was the premier conference, but with the loss of schools such as Marshall and the addition of schools such as Wofford and Elon, the days of being the top dog is gone.

    App in Greenwood, South Carolina – Home of Armanti Edwards.

  31. appmaj

    September 17, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Wofford and Elon are food FCS teams.
    Elon could beat Wake this weekend.

  32. DRM

    September 17, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I don't think Elon will beat Wake, but the fact is the second through fifth teams in the SoCon last year included Elon and Wofford, plus Furman and Samford–all our "privates," that is. Though it would appear that all SoCon teams are weaker this year (us included), I think those four are probably still in the top five in the league.

    But Greenwood is right–Marshall was a loss for the conference (though as bad as they are now, I'm not sure they could beat the top three or four SoCon schools).

  33. Michael

    September 17, 2009 at 12:57 pm


    I'm about sick of your negativity over the FCS & SoCon. Bottom line is that it costs several million dollars more to run an FBS program. Just look at the budgets nationally. Even at Ball State, an exceptionally football program for generations, besides the past two decent seasons, they have to pay their coaches far more than we do and their overall budget is much higher. That's called wasteful spending.

    ASU needs to work on paying off the mortgage on its $50 million worth of facilities before clammoring for more money from donors to support a far more expensive FBS program, which may turn out to be no better in on-the-field quality than we have now. If we're anything like Ball State, who just got beat by the 4th or 5th best team in the CAA, we may even get worse. How smart an investment would THAT be?

    But then again, you wouldn't seem to mind whether it's a wasteful investment. Your only investment, as far as I can tell, is to whine on blogs about your shame in your alma mater for playing smaller private schools. When are you going to raise money for it and stop crying about how much you hate the level of football ASU plays.

    Instead of telling App State to "nut up" and go "big time," how about you "nut up" a few million dollars to help get things started? That's what it takes. Until then, quit your whining and just support the team we already have. You'll really regret the complaining in a few years when Armanti is long gone, Jerry Moore decides to retire, and we struggle to a 4-4 or 5-3 SoCon season and actuallly miss the playoffs.

    Live in reality, man.

  34. Michael

    September 17, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Oh, and though it's early, it appears that most of the good teams in the SoCon are private schools (Samford, Elon, Furman, Wofford), not public (Nooga, WCU, Ga Southern & its blowout loss to SDSU, Citadel).

    Granted, Marshall was a big loss, but any of the four private schools have made the SoCon stronger than ETSU did, and especiallly VMI.

    The way I look at it, the downslide of Georgia Southern is a bigger reason for the SoCon's loss of its #1 spot to the CAA than the addition of the private schools over the past dozen years.

  35. App n Greenwood

    September 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Marshall had a good fan based, drew a good crowd at their football games and traveled with a good many fans. They had a good football team, but the support they received was a big part of their success. Like ours is now.

  36. Gwaltineer

    September 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    i think Appfan should delete all comments about moving up to FBS from August-December of each year.
    Beat Samford.

  37. mtdrago

    September 17, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Can we please talk about next year's schedule in January 2010.

    I have already seen Florida's 2010 schedule and yes the game is scheduled for Nov 20, 2010. I did not expect that to change.

    I was thinking App State would play 2 FBS teams, one weak one and one strong one.

    I would rather not play UTC on thursday first game of the season. It would be an easy win and an easy start, but it is just not like App St to start easy.

  38. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    I don't want to talk about FBS anymore here, i'm with Gwalt.

    Beat Samford.

  39. appfanmidwest

    September 17, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    The reality is that the mediocrity of the SoCon has inhibited us from reaching our full potential. We get drawn into thinking we are better than we are…which is exactly what happened to us last year.

    If you travel around the country, no one gives a rat's ass about FCS. They think of it as the NIP basketball tournament. OK, you won a NC, so that makes you the 65th best team in the nation.

    My only point is that I think our better days are in front of us and I want us to realize our full potential. Yes, I do like the idea of a road trip to Memphis or playing in a Bowl game in Phoenix. That's a hell of a lot more exciting than hanging out in Chattanooga for the weekend.

  40. appfanmidwest

    September 17, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    NIT tourney, excuse me…

  41. appfanmidwest

    September 17, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Create the vision and they will come (more fans and more $$$).

  42. crzyfrnk

    September 17, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    amen Dan….can the FBS garbage until this season is over and let's find some defense…GO APPS

  43. appfanmidwest

    September 17, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    I know, little ol App State is not good enough to beat anyone other than Presbyterian and NC Central. We'll just stay where we are and continue to underachieve.

    Think big people! Think big! We can conquer the world! Dr. Evil laugh insert here.

  44. Dan

    September 17, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    As Clayton mentioned – we are 0-2 in our past 2 FCS games. Maybe we should go undefeated and win every game by double digits before we start thinking we're too big for our britches.

    Again, beat Samford.

  45. clayton

    September 18, 2009 at 1:46 am


  46. appfanmidwest

    September 18, 2009 at 3:24 am

    Thursday night games are lame unless they are televised because no fans from out of town will be there. Not sure why ESPN would even consider this game as it has no compelling elements (other than us, of course).

    Create the vision and they will come.

  47. Gwaltineer

    September 18, 2009 at 3:50 am

    there must not be anything to do in the midwest except talk about bowl games.
    There have been 30 1-AA champions. 10 have come from the SoCon. The SoCon has played for antoher 4 or 5 of those. It is not generally a weak conference. It may be down this year, but it has been dominate. The CAA isn't really just one conference. If you have half the teams in 1-AA in your conference, of course there will be 5 or 6 in the top 15.

  48. Gwaltineer

    September 18, 2009 at 3:51 am

    beat Samford.

  49. Dan

    September 18, 2009 at 5:26 am

    Here's an idea that may at least satisfy midwest's desire to play in "exotic" locations for bowl games – Since the NCAA has already decided to relegate our title game to JV status anyway, why not hold it in the same stadium as the BCS title game, but on Friday or Saturday night?

  50. DRM

    September 18, 2009 at 5:53 am

    There would probably be concern that the FCS game would leave less than pristine playing conditions for the FBS guys a day or two later. I know, that's why there are grounds crews. But I'd expect FBS to use any excuse possible to avoid being associated with FCS. Not that there's anything wrong with that, in my opinion–I think we should be separate and distinct.

    And I fear Midwest has gone off the wagon again.

  51. Joe

    September 18, 2009 at 8:43 am

    so Midwest, where are we going to get the money to build it? Yes, yes, I know you think going "big time" (is CUSA or Sunbelt big time?) will automatically bring the money in because of more recognition, blah blah. But where are we going to get the money to move up to begin with? Do you have it laying around?

    Instead of playing in the FCS, you'd rather play in the CUSA or Sunbelt? I don't hear very many people talking about those conferences around the nation either.. in fact, the only conference outside of the BCS conferences that get any talk in Football is the MWC.. it would be the same as far as recognition goes, we would have to pay a tremendous amount to do it, and we would NEVER be able to compete on a national level.

    Plus, you have to look at all the other sports.. you do realize App Athletics is more than football right?? Title IX?

  52. Joe

    September 18, 2009 at 8:45 am

    Oh, and I don't necessarily like the Thursday game or going to Florida for the final game, but I will support whatever the decisions are!

  53. richard

    September 18, 2009 at 10:16 am

    I find the CAA posting intresting… I am not excited about going to Maine and UNH… but consider them splitting the conference into two div. NORTH/South We could play GA State ( GA DOME) Richmond,JMU,W&M,… and play for a 2 Northern Div teams …. allowing 5 non conf games
    With our SC foes.. along with the one or two BCS games…..

  54. DRM

    September 18, 2009 at 11:09 am

    . . . or FBS.

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