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App State drops the big one

Great game. Great atmosphere. Great drama. The Big Hunt had it all … but an App State win. Congrats Montana. You represented. App State. We love you still. AE. You are the Greatest App Ever. We’re hoarse. We’re tired. And we’re saddened. But for now nothing but salutes. Good luck next week Griz. And good night App State. Get home safe. It’s cold out there.

ALL OVER. Coach Moore in the Winston paper – “But I can’t say enough about Montana. It was every bit the ballgame we expected it to be. We just had numerous opportunities to score but didn’t.”


  1. ASU Ice Hockey

    December 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I will always love Appalachian State.

  2. Jimmy

    December 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    How many drops did we have in that game? I am thinking somewhere around 13-15? I know we had 7-8 in the first half. That last drop for the td killed us!

  3. Rob

    December 12, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    tough drops and brutal weather conditions.. but Quick should of had that…

  4. AppUSMC

    December 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Thank you to everyone involved with Appalachian football. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do! Awesome game. We'll get 'em next season!!! It's great to be a Mountaineer!!!

  5. AppUSMC

    December 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    We'll miss you Armanti!

  6. montanaguy

    December 12, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    You guys have a great team…awesome quarterback….just phenomenal..good clean game…there will always abe another matchup….

    "Griz by 6" …. I was off by one

  7. Welcome to the Rock!

    December 12, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Great RUN ASU!!!! We're proud of you!!!! Always a Mountaineer!!!!!

  8. ceez

    December 12, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    We shot ourselves in foot this game, but I have to give it up to Montana. They did a very good job on both sides of the ball. You could say buts and ifs about the result of this game, but none of that will change the final score. Big props to Montana, and for ASU, my neighbor said it best, "The sport of football is not going anywhere, and there will always be next year"

    Win or lose, it will always be great to be a mountaineer

  9. Kidd Brewer

    December 12, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Hey FBS…go @#$% yourself…that was real COLLEGE FOOTBALL

  10. Adam

    December 12, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    As an Appalachian grad I couldn't be more proud of the football team and university as a whole. I wish the seniors the best and am grateful to have witnessed the outstanding play of Armanti Edwards over the last four years. Great season and congrats on another southern conference championship. We will get them next year. Go Apps!!

  11. Kidd Brewer

    December 12, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    We had our chances…thank you Armanti, thank you seniors

  12. bob

    December 12, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Gah i cant believe Armanti is done. If Armanti doesnt get a chance in the NFL then i may have just seen my last football game..except for app next year.

  13. carbine

    December 12, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    And as usual, it's GREAT! To BE! A MOUNTAINEER!!!

    Thank you Armanti Edwards and all the seniors who have made this the greatest football program in Division IAA for the last four years. May the underclassmen pick up where you all left off and take us even higher!

  14. NeverBackDown

    December 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I could literally feel my heartbeating faster at the end of the past two games. Armanti is the MAN, it'll take someone special to get anywhere close to the records he has set. All the best to the seniors. One question I just can't help but throw out there, why didn't the coaching staff allow Armanti to do what he does best and have a designed run/option at the very end? With all the drops, there was a timeout that could've been used… I'll quit talking now, game is over, on to next season.

  15. AppWyo

    December 12, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Congradulations Montana. I'm sad, but that was a great game. Beat Villanova.

  16. Gwaltineer

    December 12, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    497 yrds ant 17 points. Dropped passes, one sided flags, and stupid Vitaris going 1 for 3.

  17. Jay

    December 12, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Congrats Montana, you earned it! I just hate it for Armanti, because after watching the game I think we were better than them we just coudn't pull it out. Poor kick off coverage and too many dropped passes tonight. We didn't wrap up on defense either, why is that so hard for this defense? Cadet, you better get ready because you are the man next year!
    Thank you Armanti!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Gwaltineer

    December 12, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    How do you drop that pass? I don't get it. You have to catch that. Coco I miss you.

  19. ceez

    December 12, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    CoCo has dropped his fair share of passes too

  20. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    wow, killed me seeing/hearing brian quick in tears in the post game press conference as the reporters are all over him about the last drop, forget he put his heart out there with 8-135 or something….emotional

    moore did mention the uncharacteristic drops today..said he didnt know what that was all about

    speechless, cant believe we lost, i hate to admit it, but i think homefield was the difference…that game is at kidd brewer mountaineers win by 6.

    maybe in the offseason and people seeing that i will get a few more followeres on the removal of the hill behind our endzone and put seats on top of it issue..

    my dad called me and said, well on to basketball. i said no one cares about basketball really, it's on to next year and football.

    so who ya got? cadet, jamall jackson, or presly? i think cadet might be tooooo much of a playmaker to be at QB full time.

  21. ceez

    December 12, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    True ASU fans support more than just football at this school

  22. nate

    December 12, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Great game. Goose bumps throughout. Now I have that miserable wait until next season. Anyone need tickets for nooga?

  23. AppFan14

    December 12, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    APP NATIONS loves Armanti best of luck to him and hope to see him on Sundays!!!!

    AE for Walter Payton

  24. Montana Fan Forever

    December 12, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Outstanding play by two excellent team. Armanti definitly impressed the Montana fans. Hold your heads high, App State. You are a great team.

    Special thanks to you App fans who traveled to Missoula and braved the cold. We enjoyed speaking with many of you in and out side the stadium. Come back any time.

  25. carp

    December 12, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    armanti will never be replaced. we luv ya apps, but that was it. the cadet era will not….. i'm speechless. we will miss you armanti. thanks for the good times.

  26. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    ahaha i support, maybe one of the bigger bball fans on this board. just saying in general football is way bigger than bball at asu.

    businesses in nooga are very disapointed app didnt win tonight..

  27. AppFan in Pensacola

    December 12, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Ditto what Adam said a few posts back. I graduated in '82 and have never been prouder to be a Mountaineer. AE, you brought respect to you through your abilities. You have the admiration of the App Nation. Good luck to you and all Seniors. You had an incredible run and will never be forgotten.

    To my on-line friends, it has been a great season. Pull for our beloved App State in all things, but re-start the count down for next football game.

    As always, in all things…I IS great to be a Mountaineer.

  28. AppFan in Pensacola

    December 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Oops, that should have been…
    It IS great to be a Mountaineer…

  29. mtncotton

    December 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    congrats Griz. One heck of a game. Thanks Armanti and all the seniors on four great years. Hold your head up. Proud to be a Mountaineer. Too bad the BCS doesn't have a playoff.

  30. carbine

    December 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I is great too.

  31. Jay

    December 12, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    We got beat….no question. But was it me, or did Montana get a pass on penalties tonight! On the flip side, we are lucky on replay because we fumbled a lot tonight and got away with it!!! My biggest fear is that we are just a pretty good football team, and Armanti has had to carry us too much!!

  32. The Earl

    December 12, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Montana is a truly classy place with classy fans. The Grizzly fans on here have given App respect and understand that both teams are great and knew that this game would be a classic. Montana fans are much better than the CAA fans (especially JMU fans). Congrats Montana. Enjoy the NC… you earned it today!

  33. Nick

    December 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    what a great season for app st football it was a amazing road and we fell 3 yards short its a shame but i enjoyed every second of this season and good luck grizzlies in the NC

  34. pete

    December 12, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    What a game. Watched it from the ESPN Zone in NYC. They had it on the BIG screen. Despite taking some crap from the local crowd, my App State sweatshirt made it home. When the Rutgers fans asked "who cares about this game?" I returned, "playoff football, you should try it." Thank you for so many years of great football.

  35. asu7

    December 12, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    UM played a great game. Noise did not beat us. Weather did not beat us. Penalties and drops beat us.

  36. dixiedawg80

    December 12, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Great game Griz, and to AE, thank you! Best of luck on Sundays, it's been one hell of a ride!

  37. Jay

    December 12, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    I hate to say it, but losing to Montana is the first time in years that we've lost and I'm not totally destroyed. I guess that's a credit to their program…lots of class, we could learn some from them.

  38. Jimmy

    December 12, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    So….is Armanti Edwards headed to the NFL?

  39. Kidd Brewer

    December 12, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Dropped balls, penalties, 2 missed FG's, a red zone interception, and despite all of that, we had the ball on the 2 with one second left. You have one play to make to determine your fate…who wouldnt want that opportunity? We didnt get beat 100-0. We deserved it, but we didn't get it done…one more yard and we may be in Chattanooga….but we arent. A great season, a great team. I am proud to me a MOUNTAINEER

  40. mark

    December 12, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    agree 100% Jay…

  41. carbine

    December 12, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    So….anyone know where I can unload some Chattanooga tix? Got four together on the 'Nova side, near the field house. Just looking for face value, nothing more.

  42. Matt

    December 12, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    After Armanti graduates tomorrow, can we bring him back to be an offensive coordinator? Great job this season APPS, I'd just put my money on the best player to every play FCS football on that last play. If your gonna get beat, get beat with the best! As always Jerry Moore is as classy as they come.

  43. mtdrago

    December 12, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I have a ticket to Chattanooga. I might still go. I will cheer for the Grizzlies. I will also be there is hopes that the game stays in Nooga. I do believe next year its in Dallas. I will mainly be there for the AE half show. AE is the Walter Payton Award 2008-9 winner. Even Montana knows that. Go Montana. Beat Nova. If not before we will see you in Kid Brewer in 2011.

  44. Rhodes-IL

    December 12, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    If you watch the last play again, it looks like they had two spies on Edwards. I don't think he was going to be able to run it in.

  45. Mominator

    December 12, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Well..I am an Appaholic and I have officially started withdrawal. Does anyone require 4 tickets to
    Nooga-great seats. Love ya ASU!!

  46. Rhodes-IL

    December 12, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Is Jamal the real deal? For those that have seen him play, can he beat out Cadet?

  47. carbine

    December 12, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I think Armanti will get a long, serious look by most NFL teams. His size is really going to hurt his chances of being taken in the top half of the draft, but some team will roll the dice on him by round four or five. The big question is, how will he be used?

  48. carbine

    December 12, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    By the way, Villanova will beat Montana.

  49. travis

    December 12, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I will be honest i was devastated…. going cross country to play any team if tuff to do. Montana played just a little better than the apps and we should hold our heads high. we were under dogs coming into this game and we almost got it done. To all the seniors, thaaaaaaaank you for four years of great football. app is still the best program in fcs football and i think we will bounce back pretty well.

  50. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Congrats Montana. Good luck in the Finals. I just feel disappointed we didn't seem to be able and give AE a proper send off. That and our WRs really need to work on catching the ball, how many drops can you have?. Thanks to the Appalachian State Football Team for a fantastic season, we will be back! Thanks to AE for being such a fantastic person, player, and representative of our fine university.

  51. Matt

    December 12, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Spies, the guy has rushed for 4,000 yrds and has taken your team on his back for four years. When it all comes down to it, no slight on any of the receivers, even with the drops, they made big catches all day long. In that situation you don't roll snake eyes two weeks in a row (Richmond). Go with your best! Go APPS

  52. Shane

    December 12, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Amen. AE your the man and forever a legend in eyes of the Mountaineers. Get home safe boys, we'll always be proud of you.

  53. amicklaw

    December 12, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Pheeeeeww!!!! Great game. Just got home from the game and am still in shock. it was brutally cold but neither team gave an inch. Hats off to App State. You guys came into a tough environment and a vg good Montana team and represented well. I hope we play again next year in the chipper. Take care all and hope your fans that attended took my advice about dressing extra warm. See you all next year.

  54. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    its starting to settle, and even though they had 2 spies, i'm thinking id still take armanti any day. it was his team. his legacy. give him the shot. he gets stopped on the 1 or 2, i dont question the play call 1 bit. would have liked to see him get a shot. but it's amazing how much better his arm strength got throughout the 4 years. just think the michigan and richmond year how much he scampred, and to now he's a true passing qb and running as well.

    also, forgot who mentioned it, but we wont know if jamal jackson is the real deal till he plays a down of college football. but his size and stas would suggest he is/certainly can be. the main benefit is the fact that he's 6'3..

  55. Scott

    December 12, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    No need to second guess the calls or the drops, we competed today and had a chance to make something happen on the last play.

    The playcall would have resulted in a TD, had it been executed, but give full credit to Montana for making the plays they had to make. Also, their defense was a result of some of the drops.

    Also, in a close game it often comes down to Special Teams. Montana clearly won that battle.


  56. Always an AppFan

    December 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    What a great and exciting season – just short. We had the ball and a chance to win against ECU, lost in the last second to McNeese and lost in the last second today.

    Gwaltineer, what a shame you are with your posts after these guys played their hearts out. Zero degrees and a driving snowstorm and you are ripping guys? Pull your fat a$$ off the couch and go out there and give it a shot. My bet is you can't.

    So proud to be a Mountaineer and can't wait until next season.

  57. bob

    December 12, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    How can you say that was a special teams game? It was pouring the snow..making it almost impossibe to get a field goal. And we definately had the better punter.

  58. 55

    December 12, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    AE's remarkable production legacy:

    – 14,346 total yds from scrimmage
    (10,039 passing, 4307 rushing)

    – 138 total touchdowns responsible
    (74 passing, 64 rushing)

  59. RayFus

    December 12, 2009 at 6:08 pm





    G O A P P ! ! ! !

  60. mtd SECURITY

    December 12, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Mtdrago here!!!

    I will have to go to Montana next time we play them up there. It looks like a great stadium.

    At least we won the SoCon and destroyed Elon.

    I will go to the Elon at Wake Forest basketball game tomorrow and I will wear a Wake Forest Sweat Shirt and an App Hat.

    I like our chances with Jamal Jackson next year, but I believe Moore and company will give the ball to Cadet for at least a couple of games. Not sure how we will be next year, but lets go for Six straight SoCon Champions.

    By the way I sure I will get some comments from this: My name is no longer mtdrago, it is now going to be mtd SECURITY.


  61. mtd SECURITY

    December 12, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    mtdrago is now MTD SECURITY.

  62. FBS time at ASU

    December 12, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    The clock is stopped…..what will I do now. That's the first thing I look at when I log onto this site.

    Thanks Armanti, and all the seniors! Proud to be a Mountaineer.

  63. black and gold

    December 12, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    The Mountaineers have represented App Nation well all year, including tonight! There will be next year. Hang in there Quick..we love ya! Hold your heads high. Go App!

  64. Suck It

    December 12, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    So u guys eat Montana weather for breakfast with a glass of skim milk. Well we eat lumberjacks with a cold beer for breakfast. U guys know u cant come west of the mississippi and win espically in the semis 0-3.AE CHOKED BIG in the 4th good luck next year in the CFL buddy. Maybe u MIGHT get a chance at back up but a definite lock for 3rd string and holder!!!NFL dreams out the window with that choke act!!2-0 24 17 GRIZ BABY!!!

  65. black and gold

    December 12, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Hey S.I.,
    Do you know Janet?

  66. Rut

    December 12, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Respect!!… How many times did AE have a man in his face and convert on 3rd down?? Dropped balls?? "It was a little colder than we thought it would be… a little louder too." Same story, GOOO GRIZ

  67. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Armanti Edwards accounted for about 400 yards of offense. Choke? I think not. Again you guys have a great team and played a good game. It wasn't the cold and it wasn't the noise it was the teams. They both played their hearts out and we came up a little short. We will be back and hopefully will have some revenge next year.

  68. AppFan14

    December 12, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    He suck it… O ya he choked alright thats why he drived down to the 3 yard line and scared the whole state of montana so go to hell with your bull. Also you can wave to AE while pro players are chasing him across your t.v (until he gets into the endzone)

  69. Suck It

    December 12, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    The reason u came up short was because of the Choke act! Over throwing wide open routes (2 for TD's) isnt choking ok sorry excuses blame other players for the loss not the Commander and "The Best QB" in the FCS.

  70. carp

    December 12, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    how can griz fanz possibly say AE choked? Ya'll can unclinch your buttcheeks now. He did what he had to do. A dropped pass in the end zone for the game??? Not Armanti's fault. Today he gave his all for Appalachian State.

    Nice game Montana. You won. But AE choking? No.

  71. furman

    December 12, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    we were the better team but we lost when itcounted ..I dont know if I can get over the AE ERA IM SICK WITH THE THOUGHT OF THE FUTURE.BODIE

  72. Psl48

    December 12, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    wow Suck it must not have many freinds to celebrate with. I feel sad for the dude.

    Choke now way. We drove from the 25 to the 3 in under a minute. A choke would have been 4 and out.

    Armanti gave the team a chance to win. Can't ask for more. He is the man and gave his team the chance to accomplish great things and they did all 4 years.

    Look out next year boys…

  73. Always an AppFan

    December 12, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Hey Suck It – win with class. Your fans are great and so is your team. Your school is beautiful, but sadly, you are the outlier and basically a clown.

  74. Psl48

    December 12, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    and girls

  75. yosef83

    December 12, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Congratulations Montana. Epic game played by two fine teams representing two fine programs. Here's one App fan who hopes you finish off a perfect season next week. Finish what you started and beat Nova. Hold your heads high AppNation.

  76. ant

    December 12, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    i dont mind losing the game. its losing armanti at qb that hurts the most

  77. furman

    December 12, 2009 at 6:59 pm


  78. Always an AppFan

    December 12, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    I hate AE is done. I really think that today was the National Title game. I bet Montana wins by three touchdowns next week.

  79. yosef83

    December 12, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    We win with class and we lose with class.

  80. Rut

    December 12, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    If I see "Suck It" in Missoula tonight I will backhand the classless F*#@. Respect & Go Griz!!

  81. Brendan

    December 12, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    dont worry about him. he isn't a real fan. He is a fan that most schools think of as their bad apples with no respect for the other program. So proud of the seniors this year. I'm proud to graduate beside of you class of 2010. Armanti, you are the man. We'll never forget what you have done at ASU.

  82. Longtimegriz

    December 12, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    There are always fans on both sides that just cannot be gracious…but…it would be nice if Montana could actually find a QB as talented as Armanti! Selles has played well and we do appreciate him. Tonight Montana ended up on the right end of the clock and the score…otherwise it was a draw. Good job to all the players, coaches, & fans!

  83. furman

    December 12, 2009 at 7:05 pm


  84. Suck It

    December 12, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Well iam here because of an app st fan that was on facebook on the griz page talkin smack so this is my response. iam just showing the same respect that he showed us when he THOUGHT u guys were gonna win!!so if u guys wouldve won then he wouldve been on our page runnin his mouth again!!!

  85. MontanGRIZ

    December 12, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    That was a great game! I dont understand why all these app state fans were trying to say we were a country @ss team and over-rated. I think we showed the nation today that we play great football up here in MT. AE is a good quarter back I dont really see what all hype was about it looks like the wind would knock him over.. But enough of that.. Hes your guy we got ours. which sucked tonight 11-25. But at least he got it done when it counted…. Peace APP state. we will meet again.. Next year we will be even better. so dont get any ideas…

    GO GRIZ>>>>>>GO GRIZ>>>>>><<<GO GRIZ>>>

  86. Matt

    December 12, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    SUCK IT, with championships you learn to be HUMBLE… You won't win them all. There will be darker days and my friend, there will be brighter days. Ya'll wake up and give me an AAAAA-SSSSSS-UUUUUU!!!!!

  87. Suck It

    December 12, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Bottom Line we won u lost better luck next time!maybe next year app st

  88. black and gold

    December 12, 2009 at 7:15 pm



  89. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 7:17 pm


    All the hype is about his incredible numbers, yeah he is smaller than your typical QB but he plays big. Even look at his numbers today 400 yards of offense. Look for him on sundays. He is the best player in FCS and one of the best in all of college football.

  90. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    I can't really help to feel bad for suck it, how miserable he must be. Even after a great win for his team his misery can't help but show.

  91. amicklaw

    December 12, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Bottom line is SI is a little punk protected by internet anonymity. Any real Montana fan would b*tch slap him for being a moron. Don't get sucked in (like I have as he's making griz nation look bad). Probably some CAA douche.


    December 12, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    ya great one! your mascot looks like Sponge Bob… OOOOO YESSSSS APP STATE IS IN TEARS! Who cares about the mascot. our team looks like a bunch of bad asses after that WIN!

  93. section212

    December 12, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Griz fans, congrats. You should be proud of your team and the fans that represented at Montana tonight… they were obvioulsy a factor in the game and resulted in several procedure penalties.

    I'm as disappointed as any App fan, but all players on both teams played their hearts out and left it all on the field. Couldn't be prouder of the Mountaineers tonight. Don't worry Griz… we'll be back. Here's hoping we get you guys at our house next year…

    Suck It… just go away. You're making a fool of yourself.

  94. Griz Girl

    December 12, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Armanti Edwards is a first class top of the line amazing player and Griz Nation was lucky to watch him play in person!! I hope we all are lucky enough to watch him play on Sundays. Thanks to App State for a hard fought, leave your hearts on the field kind of game. There are dickwads in every fan base – we have our share. Sorry SI found his way here. 99.9% of Griz fans have the greatest respect for App State and what you have accomplished. I know it is hard to say good-bye to AE. Here is hoping we meet again soon! GO GRIZ! BEAT NOVA!

  95. ChadWitTwinz

    December 12, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Crazy game. Hate it's over for ALL our seniors. Armanti, it's been a pleasure watching your "magic" on the field, no one else compares. Best of luck in any future endeavors!

    "Suck It" is Opie's evil twin sister and needs to be re-routed…

  96. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Griz Girl,

    Don't worry, we know we have plenty of idiots on our side too. I think we will play again soon, hopefully at our place. I would like to see your team live. Congratulations! I was impressed with your team, especially your running game. Have fun in Chattanooga.

  97. JJnNC

    December 12, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    OK, I'm finally coming out of my funk. Man, that one hurt. Not anger, just heartache. That one was ours. We had the better team, they had the better running game. We dropped some passes we shouldn't have, granted. Brutal weather play a part in that I would think. I wished we would have used a little better time management at the end. We lost 20 seconds off the clock in the last minute between one set of plays. I was going crazy. The difference tonight, and Coach Moore said in the pre-game it would come down to whoever gets the breaks, was penalities. Those are unforgiveable, and that was the break they got. How many days until the season starts?!!

  98. MTBoy

    December 12, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Two great programs left it all on the field today! It is a shame that they could not have met in Chatty. Looking forward to our future battles.

  99. amicklaw

    December 12, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    SI changed his name to GWhh. STFU douche. You have App and griz envy fn troll. don't know what 2nd rate team you follow but it's not the griz. App state fans, you guys are class. don't fall for this sh*t stain.


    December 12, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    APP state v Montana 2nd best game I have ever been 2. I think Montana was the better team. Y because they had 7 more points then the opposition. APP state got away with a lot of fumbles n I dont think penalties played any part in the game.. Or maybe the False starts by App state. But the bad calls on fumbles was App's break. They could not capitalize. N thats what matters. What penalties did we get that changed the game? I didnt c any… quit being a poor looser. Maybe there wouldnt be so many hatefull griz fans in here if APp state fans had a little respect b4 the game..

  101. ASUMtneer

    December 12, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    GRIZ Nation, what was number 1?

  102. rob

    December 12, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Hey that was a fantastic game ! That was THE championship game! We trash talked,we yanked each others chains.But in the end it was a FANtasic game.Thanks for chatting,and putting up with us.
    You can bet we will always be App fans ! I hope A.E
    represents in the NFL !!!

  103. Tampa Bay Fan

    December 12, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    We had a great season full of highs and lows. It was a great game.. We'll miss you AE!! Good luck in the NFL!

  104. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 7:58 pm


    Out of all those "fumbles" only one was actually a fumble the rest were obviously after the runner was down. There was one by quick that looked like it might have been a fumble but that was the only one. So we did get a break on that one but these tings tend to even out as happened as there were a couple missed calls. So officiating really had nothing to do with the game at all, which is a good thing. I'm happy to say this one was purely settled on the field.

  105. black and gold

    December 12, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    No place for that… go on facebook if you want to be that immature. Your comments will most likely be gone by tomorrow in any case if you can't clean up the language. You can represent the Grizz better than that.

  106. AppClassOf09

    December 12, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Wow, I think I need to go to bed that was pretty atrocious grammar even for me.

  107. Jay

    December 12, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Hey Suck It,

    To say Armanti choked is about as ignorant a comment as I've heard tonight. You are obviously that fan that both teams hate because you are so stupid and embarass those that have some class.
    Montana has a good record, but really only one good win, and that was tonight. Otherwise, you play in a weak conference and don't venture out to challenge yourself. I hope Montana loses Friday, just because of you. Otherwise, your fans have been first class!

  108. Jay

    December 12, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Suck It,

    Another thing, I would be emabarassed if I were you and all I had to do was go on another team's site and talk junk. Do you guys not have your own!!! Has technology not made it to your po dunk town? Have fun on "our" field in Chattanooga, let me know if you need directions to the field. You are probably too stupid to find it!

  109. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    we will see them again, next time….why dont yall come to our house to play? think that would be a good time?

    Great game, yall got the W. Yall are truly respectful fans (for the most part) A lot better than what we've seen out of the CAA (i'm pointing to you JMU!!!)

  110. Dan

    December 12, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Suck It, I called out one of the more ignorant Grizzly fans, like yourself. We lost, no excuses, calls went about evenly as far as I could tell, we just needed 3 more yards… My point though is that you're a tool and the world would probably be a better place without you in it. Now have another drink and drive yourself home. I hope there's ice on all the roads and you can think of me when you forget your seatbelt.

  111. bob

    December 12, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    App St. Fans…awesome school, awesome fans, awesome performance…mad props. So sorry for classless people on here representing Montana…they don't. We love football and love what you have done in Boone, the way we are doing it in Missoula. Here's to many more between the two of us!

  112. Larry

    December 12, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Watched an incredible game tonight and I'm hoarse from screaming. You guys have an awesome team and should be proud. I'm glad I had a chance to watch this one on such a balmy December afternoon. AE is everything we expected. Looking forward to watching him on Sundays and I'm glad we won't have to face him again. Don't worry about SI. Any true Griz fan would b&!*h slap him. I know I would. Looking forward to our game in 2011. Go Griz!

  113. Dan

    December 12, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    This hurts like crazy, but again, no excuses, we didn't make the plays we needed to…

  114. Big Fan

    December 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Unfortunate better team did not win tonight, but we've had some luck over the years too!

  115. Jon

    December 12, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Congrats ASU on a great game, great season, and a very talented QB. As a long time season ticket holder in Missoula, I'm delighted with the outcome of the game — but nobody can argue that tonight wasn't a great game, and both teams deserve kudos. I agree with an earlier post — this was the championship game (sorry Nova). As for Suck It, you're a disgrace. Come down to the Missoula Club tonight so several former Griz players and myself can teach you some manners – Belfast-Style. Looking forward to making the trip to Boone for our 2011 regular season game there. Have the beer cold for us and plenty of it….

  116. Nice Griz Fan

    December 12, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Please realize that lowlifes like Suck It are thankfully a very small minority in GrizNation. The rest of us know that AE is truly special, that (we hope) this was the real NC, that our QB was as off as your receivers (which wasn't much), that the weather was an equalizer, that we got away with one, and if it mattered where this was played, then Griz fans had a part in it. It's easy to be gracious in victory (despite a few well-placed jerks), but AppState fans rule, because you've shown it in defeat. Thanks!

  117. appfan91

    December 12, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Griz Fans,
    GREAT game. Don't worry, we have our share of bad fans too. Now, all I have to say is, you had better win the national championship! I will be rooting for you. No way the CAA wins. Finish what you started. BEAT NOVA !! Oh, one more thing. This is much better that going to the Dominos Pizza-Toyota-Trojin Condum-Frootloop Bowl isnt it.

  118. GrizNation17

    December 12, 2009 at 9:06 pm


    I couldn't agree more!!


  119. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    hahahahaha good one appfan91.

    i hope they nation could feel the intensity and passion that was put into the game by both team.

  120. coloradoneer

    December 12, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Great game but really I am sick to my stomach. SICK…………….

  121. appfan91

    December 12, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Note to Brian Quick,
    Walk tall and proud young man. Today YOU gave your all for Appalachian State!!!!

  122. Senior Griz

    December 12, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    I've been watching Griz games since an early age beginning in 1936. This was the best played game in our stadium that I can recall. Neither team deserved to lose. Met a lot of classy App folks at the pre game reception last evening. We have great respect for your program.

  123. coloradoneer

    December 12, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Griz, if you beat Nova next friday night you are truly champions…..Best of luck, see you in 2012….Cupcakes no more…….Thanks for all the great discussion here on APPFAN………

  124. coloradoneer

    December 12, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Griz, make it 15-0……Please…….

  125. GRIZZZ

    December 12, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Seriously, App State… i hope you have a great couple of years rebuilding, because the Griz will be right back in it every single year to strike fear into you prepy East Coast blowhards. We are a young team that will keep on rolling, weak or tough schedule….

    BTW- I think that we have been in the National Championship game for the past 2 years and App State has lost in the semis the past 2 years…..keep the memories of Michigan alive….I hope it gets you laid.

  126. appstate

    December 12, 2009 at 9:36 pm


    your an idiot. when was the last time your team won a national title? we won in 05, 06, and 07. we also have 5 straight socon titles. we also have had more fans in our stadium than yours. weve had over 30,000, your tops is like 25,000 which is less than our average game i believe. i dont see why you think your program is so great, your not even national champions yet

  127. Nice Griz Fan

    December 12, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Wow, Grizzz sure told us all! I sure hope that drivel isn't coming from a UM grad – I'll have to hide my sheepskin. Some people need to get off their computer and go talk smack over a beer at the Missoula Club. Some forget that it's just a game.

  128. Eastsider

    December 12, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    AE indeed is world class. He is probably the most accurate passer to play for a visiting team in WAGriz in at least 10 years. ….and I thought it would be his running that would give the Griz fits. As for Quick: (1) his athleticism and good hands caused the Griz problems all day, so cut him just a little slack; and (2) give the Griz DBs some credit. Looked to me live, and on replay, that TJ broke up that last pass.

    It was indeed a game for the ages, regardless of the winner. Every play was meaningful and competetive. Both teams behaved with class, although ASU DB # 18 might learn to use his arms to wrap up, and forget about using them to taunt a fairly knowledgeable crowd. I remember Georgia Southern winning in Chatty in 2000 with absolutely no hint of class. The Mountaineers gained a lot of fans in Missoula today……I hope ASU wins 'em all from now on, except when you play the Griz.

    We have a name for trash talking morons like Suck It: Bobcats.

  129. Nyegriz

    December 12, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    suck it I'm guessing you're not even a real fan the way you shout your stupid crap all over the place. You need to jump off a bridge (soon) so the ice isn't thawed yet. Appy State you guys were awesome I'm extremely impressed with your guys. I'm excited to watch us kick CAA A** all over the place 🙂 Rebound and regroup! Celebrate a successful season.

  130. GRIZZZ

    December 12, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Nice Griz Fan,
    Grows some balls and change your name to Un-nice Griz Fan. I am a UM grad and have been watching the Griz or 20 + years. I do not tolerate being put down by East Coast teams because the play in a conference called SoCon or CAA. Maybe you should go back and read the posts throughout this blog and see how much disrespect UM was given. You actually should be ashamed to put down a die hard Griz fan when he stands behind his team and town.

    Appstate. Those numbers are in the past as all your other stats that you guys have spouted all week long. The only stat that matters is Griz 24-17; and Griz will be playing next week, not Appy State.

  131. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    App will be back. montana will be back. (if the guy really wants to get technical about the hill asu is actually at a higher elevation they pointed that out on espn) great game. no excuses. you won. please beat the caa so maybe they wont get 6 teams in the dance next year (since 20 teams will be playing)

    look forward to getting a shot at yall in our place in 2011. although with all this talk something tells me there's a good shot we could do this again next year come playoff time.

    and there's no need to wack people backgrounds..on either side… yall are "tough big farm boys" i get it.
    but we arent "preppy eastiders" just cause we got mostly black team from the south and rely heavily on speed doesnt mean we are "soft" and cant take it by any means.

    little known fact for montana people armanti had a pretty rough upbringing himself. his dad is freaking incarcerated for life for MURDER. didnt even get to watch his son (armanti) play a game until this year when they showed the game in the state pen!
    …so ther'es no need to start comparing "tough backgrounds, and upbringings on here." i dont think there were any pansies on the field today, for either team.
    The guy for app (cline) who got layed out got up and played a heckuva game after that! brush them shoulders off, and we will be back, there is no rebuilding..the guy who returned our last kick is the backup QB and we be in there next year…hope to see yall then and good luck against the stupid CAA and Nova

  132. josh

    December 12, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Hey Grizzz

    3 > 2

  133. GRIZZZ

    December 12, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Hey Josh,
    Chill bro, don't be so cynical. But if you want to do math:
    6 days = National Championship

    Go GRIZ

  134. ASU '05

    December 12, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Another great ASU Football season. We have no reason to hang our heads. This was truly a great game that both teams will think back on forever. Good luck Montana in the championship against 'Nova. Hope to see you in the playoffs next year in Boone! Armanti, thank you for giving your all for Appalachian State every time you walked onto the field. We'll see you on Sundays!

  135. Delmar

    December 12, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Maybe you should go back and read the posts throughout this blog and see how much disrespect UM was given.

    You guys brought that upon yourselves when you came to OUR website and started spewing YOUR pride and ridiculous factors (weather, crowd) for the game.

    Did we underestimate you? Possibly, because you never played ANYONE. If your plan was to play an incredibly easy schedule so we wouldn't really know what to expect, then maybe you figured out how to beat anybody, no matter what your talent.

    See you soon, and you better believe T. Cadet will be scampering around making you look foolish and not looking to pass as much as Armanti.

  136. Grizfan

    December 12, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    App State one heck of a program and AE is an absolute animal. From a die hard griz fan you guys have more respect from me than any other program in the nation. good luck next year and hopefully Griz vs. Mountaineers goes on again.

  137. Griz Fan

    December 12, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    met several of your fans at the game….very classy people! It was a hell of a game…colder than we had dressed for (much colder), also one of the loudest games I've been too….honestly..ask some who traveled to montana to say the crowd noise didn't have an impact in the game… least 3 or 4 false starts…good enuf for me!

    You have a great team and great tradition…will be up in 2012(?) when we play at Boone!

    Thanks for allowing us Griz fans to spew a little smack…was all in good fun.

  138. parking lot

    December 12, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    griz fans i think you are absouletly right.

    crowd was huge. way to rep for all of fcs.

    another thing (i know most griz would disagree here) but i think homefield was HUGE. if this game is played in boone at 3,333 ft with howards knob in the background and 28-30k APP STATE fans going crazy i think we win.

    the two teams played so hard, i think it was one of those games where if its played in montana, montana wins. played in boone, app wins. just an opinion. nothing can be done. i know. great game. hope the fbs nation watched and was jealous. that was some good football today. good luck again against the caa. we hate them

  139. griz 1

    December 12, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    App state … From everyone in missoula you are truly a classy program and a worthy advacary we enjoyed hosting you and can't wait to see you again .. don't forget we're scheduled for a one and one in 2012 2013 … Hopefully it will make for a better rivalry than you and Michigan lol keep it up App State … GO GRIZ

  140. chad

    December 12, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    GREAT GAME! Probably the best college game of the year (in my eyes)! I was born and raised in Montana and now live in mississippi with SEC football, had all the SEC fans screaming and hollering! Texas needs to be out and Montana play Bama for the title (LOL)!Go Griz! Great game APP!

  141. FrozenGriz

    December 12, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Congrats to App State on a great season and a great game! Personally, I was glad it was the great game it was billed to be.

    I agree that Armanti Edwards should have been given an opportunity to run the ball at the end. My friend and I said that the Griz offensive coordinator must have been calling the plays for App State at the end.

    The Griz quit running the ball after meeting with huge success on the first series of the game. With the weather and Selle having a subpar game, it was inexplicable that they would wait until the fourth quarter to start running it again.

    There were a lot of dropped passes on both sides which is what happens when there is a below zero wind chill!

    Great game. Too bad either team had to lose! Sorry about the rude Griz fans that posted here. They certainly don't represent the team or the community!

  142. GruzNation17

    December 12, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    App Fans,

    looks like you made quite the impression on our fans in Missoula.

    Check it out;…

    congrats on a good team and great fans!!

  143. areMONTE

    December 13, 2009 at 12:08 am

    We've got 99 problems and App State ain't one! GO GRIZ!


    December 13, 2009 at 12:30 am

    guys, i gotta say: last year i drove in a 1994 Astro van all the way to Chatty with three of my buddies. 42 hours it took us, for three hours of frustration. we drank with some App State people…one of them texted me tonight congratulating us. you guys really have a great program and we were glad to host app. best FCS game I have ever seen. hope to God you all made it back safe; welcome back anytime we have the opportunity. damn, in a couple years we could play twice a season…

  145. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 1:19 am

    We dropped a pass in the end zone to tie the game. Period. Should have won thid one. Going to hurt for a while. 497 yds and 17 point means bad exicution.
    Always an App Fan…not sure what your issue is

  146. Greensboro Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 2:47 am

    It was a great game to watch. Even though the last pass was dropped, I was very proud of our team. They played so hard with grit and determination. I cannot wait until we play them again in 2012.

    go app state!

  147. Greensboro Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 2:57 am

    I can't wait to play Montana in the Rock! Our fans will be just as loud and crazy, and we will have MORE! We will pack in over thirty thousand!!!

    go app state!!!

  148. Brandon

    December 13, 2009 at 2:58 am

    Great game by both teams.

    The obnoxious UM posters today are pointing to one glaring thing. The APP fans repeatedly said how Weather and the Crowd were nothing. ah ya…. sorry they were a big factor today sorry.

    That said was great to see you all play. AE was awesome to say the least.

    Oh and by the way SI the really annoying peeps you want to rail on are the boys in the CAA. The ones we are going to beat into submission next week. For All the West and the South. 8)

  149. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 4:05 am

    the difference in quality and atmosphere in the Montana v App game and Nova v W&M game was unreal.
    I went back and watched it this morning and counted 12 drops. It made it more painful to watch Quick's two TD drops knowing he also caught 10 passes. Like I said, this one is going to hurt.

  150. rowdypaco

    December 13, 2009 at 4:06 am

    Thanks App State for another great year. Thanks and good luck to AE. I wish he could have gone out on top. A great game, just couldn't quite finish the big plays last night.

  151. Always an AppFan

    December 13, 2009 at 4:21 am

    gwaltineer – this is my issue:

    "stupid Vitaris going 1 for 3"

    Seriously, the guy is kicking in a snow and windstorm…over the top.

  152. JJnNC

    December 13, 2009 at 4:37 am

    Get off of Vitaris! Really. One of his kicks was blocked. His fault? Nope! One he made, kept us in the game. One he missed. 25 mph winds, 15 degree temp, and oh yeah, snow on the turf. Pretty damn hard to make. OK? If he hadn't hit that ONE he did, we wouldn't have been in position to tie/win the game. If you want to gripe, check out the penalties we had. These guys played hard… ALL SEASON… OK. Not the way to end this year. NOT!

  153. grizzled

    December 13, 2009 at 4:38 am

    That was the best football game
    I have ever been to. App you have a great program and we were just able to contain AE enough to win. Look forward to more of those.

  154. acweather

    December 13, 2009 at 5:01 am

    The 3 best teams in FCS played in Richmond and Missoula the last 2 weeks. Only 1 could advance given the pairings. Congrats to the Grizz. Now go finish strong!

  155. mark

    December 13, 2009 at 5:28 am

    Great game. But someone had to win this one, and the grizz got it. I love the smack talk on here. Bout time ASU can play a great team with real $hit head fans who love the team. Awesome. I hate ASU is out, but that was the Champ game. Two best programs in the last ten years… JUST AWESOME.
    However, unlike other APP fans, I hope you loose to NOVA. Sorry, but I cannot pull for you next week. Even though I think you guys are going to KILL Nova 🙂 and you guys will KILL THEM!!
    I have not been following this blog closely this week, but I make the choice not to read poor posts by ASU or Grizz fans..

    Congrats GIZZ…..
    #It's great to be a MOUNTAINEER#

  156. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 5:33 am

    Vitaris' two misses were off regardless of the wind. We did not have the kicker this year to rely on one as much as we did, this game included.

  157. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 5:40 am

    Go back and watch our first two drives. Drops ended them both. In fact, drops ended 3 of the first 4.
    The team played hard and moved the ball well on a lot of drives, but once we reached the 30, we did not execute.

  158. carbine

    December 13, 2009 at 5:44 am

    That was a great game. So great, that I suspect next Friday is going to be somewhat anti-climactic. I hate to say it, but to me Villanova has looked like the best team in I-AA football all year long, and I think we would have had great difficulty beating them if we had pulled this one out.

    Chattanooga ain't Missoula. There won't be any screaming fans or driving snow storms. This NC game is beginning to look a lot like last year's.

  159. JustAnotherReasonWhy

    December 13, 2009 at 5:56 am

    Agree with Gwalt, Bad Conditions or not… If we make those Field Goals… we have an opportunity to kick an XP Type FG at the end of the game to send us to Chatty… Gotta admit this year i've been holding my breath on our XP Kicks….. Never had much faith in the kid, and the kick he did make…. probably was gonna miss wide left but the wind pushed it back =|

  160. AppGrad96

    December 13, 2009 at 6:02 am

    SI, you obviously have never been laid in your life!! Look up doucherocket in the dictionary and your picture will be next to it. Your program is exceptional, but you will never duplicate a 3-Peat!!

  161. Pat

    December 13, 2009 at 6:16 am

    I hope Number 14 in the black and gold is retired. Hopefully Superman will get a chance to play on Sundays. GO Mountaineers!

  162. Griz77

    December 13, 2009 at 6:19 am

    App State & Griz prove that the Bowl Series sucks – say it on the field and it counts. The home and away series will be great. Should have had the NCAA FBS confernce knuckle heads at this game — amazing fun. Go Griz

  163. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 6:20 am

    Thanks to the classy griz fans who aren't being total d-bags, we appreciate the comments. Great year, really sucks it had to end this way. The 36 yarder by Vitaris never had a chance, should have been convertable. 44 yarder was also a lost cause, but i tend to think that one didn't have too much of a shot anyway… We just didn't make plays when we needed them.

  164. Erik

    December 13, 2009 at 6:26 am

    0-9 lifetime out west for your team and 3-3 lifetime in semi-final games,
    best of all 15- and now 1 on ESPN network
    GO GRIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  165. Rhodes-IL

    December 13, 2009 at 6:44 am

    So if we followed the Griz schedule pattern, we would have not played ECU or McNeese ST. and replaced them with two sure wins. Would we have run the table and been the #1 seed?

    That is the debate. Their way of scheduling has led to 2 possibly 3 titles and ours has led to 3.

  166. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 7:00 am

    so how's our QB situation looking for next year?

  167. Yogi86

    December 13, 2009 at 7:31 am

    Its been 2 years since Satterfield left and somebody else has been calling the plays & coming up with the game plans and we have become predictable and unimaginative. Armanti is awesome and will be difficult to replace. Thanks for the memories!!

  168. Yogi86

    December 13, 2009 at 7:33 am

    You have to retire #14!

  169. Purple & Gold

    December 13, 2009 at 7:36 am

    Nova will mow over the Griz. The CAA is the best conference in the nation and it will again be proven next Friday night. The Griz play no one and when they finally play a quality program, like App. State, they were handled in almost all parts of the game. The Griz last TD was a sham. App. State got jobbed and that's a shame. I think the Nova v. App. State game would have been one for the ages and I think App. State would have easily won it. Great 4 year run by your progam. I don't think AE will get a shot in the NFL. He's too small. What a great talent. He will have to go the route of Rodney Landers and be in the arena league and work his way into the NFL if he can. I would love to see him on Sundays.

  170. herbstreitsucks form

    December 13, 2009 at 7:37 am

    Let the young kids and the Jamal Jackson era begin. IT Starts today guys. A new era in App State Football. It's gonna be great if not better. Just wait.

  171. Purple & Gold

    December 13, 2009 at 7:40 am

    I think a JMU v. App. State series makes sense. I think it makes sense for some CAA v. SoCon games in the future. JMU is looking at a Griz series as well. I enjoy your progam and your fans. Not all JMU fans are like the ones that most App. State fans are critical of. We have great respect for wonderful football. When you guys were in Harrisonburg last year, we had a great time with a number of your fans before and after the game. Hold you heads high. What a nice season for your program. I don't think there will be another program with a 4 year run like you all have had.

  172. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 8:07 am

    Yogi – this was the first year w/o Satterfield and this "unimaginative" offense was ranked in the top 5 of the FCS pretty much all year. Drops killed us in this game, that and the lack of a clutch FG kicker. Nothing really to do with the play calling.

  173. T-Money

    December 13, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Armanti will make it to the NFL hands down….Landers is not even comparable to Armanti
    Edwards based on his speed,instict, and strength of his arm. Also Jamal Jackson will be the starting QB for the Mountaineers next year. He is a quick 6'4 athlete with a cannon arm. Plays very similar to Terrell Pryor and look forward to him taking over post AE. GREAT GAME NEERS, you have made us all proud and I am just pleased to have been a part of the success here @ Appalachian State!

  174. FrankFan

    December 13, 2009 at 8:30 am

    Did you really think that the ASU defense would hold up against the UM offensive line? 6'7" 280 verses 6'2" 255? A times, but not the entire game. AppState is in for a long stretch of "almost" seasons unless they change their recruit criteria. Everyone is getting bigger and quick, app is still just quick. The undersized offensive line makes it difficult to use all of the weapons because they have to keep the TE and a running back in the protection scheme. Also the good defenses play straight to the guard and tackle, which stops alot of the zone block chipping to the next offensive lineman. Now size and strength and push win over quickness. Sorry to be so "football" film speak, but this is how it's done.

  175. Appstateswim&cyc

    December 13, 2009 at 8:51 am

    It seems like we are making linemen on both sides of the ball a priority if you look at next years recruiting class.

  176. newtonappfan

    December 13, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Armanti Edwards new nickname should be ICEMAN,he never breaks when under pressure.Congrats on 4 great seasons,Two National Championships, and 4 Southern Conference titles.After you cross that stage today look around the campus and see how much it has changed since you got there 4 years ago.The changes are because you guys put ASU on the national radar screen with your winning traditions.It was a great team effort.Good Luck in the future and always walk proud that you are a true MOUNTAINEER!!!!!!!!!

  177. Semxe fan

    December 13, 2009 at 9:00 am

    Great game that could have gone either way. Armanti Edward should be able to play at the next level for sure, probably the best athlete to play at Griz Stadium. App State program and fans both have class from what I see in the comments here. Sorry for the few idiots talking smack. In Montana we have our share of lowlifes.

  178. terry hober

    December 13, 2009 at 9:03 am

    I as a griz fan for over 60 years have not been to a better game than the one I just witnessed yesterday in person. It was cold but both teams played their hearts out and can you beleive only two turnovers with that weather. Edwards is everything they said he was and App State has one class program. I think the best two teams played yesterday. Thanks App State for bringing it yesterday. Both teams can be proud.

  179. yosef83

    December 13, 2009 at 9:09 am

    I do think we would benefit from someone other than Chris Moore calling offensive plays.

  180. yosef83

    December 13, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Another thing that killed us last night was the lack of wrapping up and making sound tackles. Our defense missed numerous "first hits" throughout the game.

  181. Nick

    December 13, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Steve brown needs to call the plays

  182. AppinMD

    December 13, 2009 at 9:32 am

    FrankFan, I'll take our "little" guys who ran up 500 yds of O (would have been a lot more w/out all the drops) against the UM "big" guys.

  183. rob

    December 13, 2009 at 9:35 am

    A.E will be drafted ! Undersized ? Doug Flute was undersized too !

  184. SoCalApp

    December 13, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Anyone know if the team made it back to Boone? Graduation starts in 30 minutes. I hope Armanti and the other 3 make it across the stage.

  185. bob

    December 13, 2009 at 9:40 am

    I don’t think AE will get a shot in the NFL. He’s too small. What a great talent. He will have to go the route of Rodney Landers and be in the arena league and work his way into the NFL if he can. I would love to see him on Sundays.

    Comment by Purple & Gold 12.13.09 @ 11:36 am

    Buddy please dont compare Landers to Armanti Edwards. Just go ahead and stop. Im sure many people have read that comment you posted and just ignored you. But please just quit hating on Armanti by comparing him to Rodney Landers. Thats like saying our offensive line was well-coached this year. If you didnt know…our O-line wasnt. Armanti has more speed, agility, arm strength, and most importantly…one of the (if not) the biggest hearts in all of college football today.

  186. FrankFan

    December 13, 2009 at 9:51 am

    AppinMD…Good point. I did not mean to take away from the heart and hustle that app played with, They certainly can be proud of their effort and could have tied it up. AE threw 54 times..54.

  187. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Frank – Our defense gave up about their average in points, it was the O that came up short yesterday. Again, if we had executed in the red zone or made a few extra catches earlier in the game, we're probably not having this discussion.

  188. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 9:52 am

    I would have preferred to see AE's last play be one with AE in total control–in other words, a designed run by AE. Though football may be the ultimate "team" game, if his last play was a must have TD, I'd rather have depended solely on AE.

  189. bob

    December 13, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Yeah FrankFan…thanks for telling me how it is. I appreciate it. I also saw how slow and uncoordinated the o-line was for Montana. But thanks for "telling me how it is" or i mean "how it is done". If it wasnt for people like you, this blog would be just a bunch of idiots talking back and forth. If you cant tell by being sarcastic.

  190. bob

    December 13, 2009 at 10:03 am


    Me too. Armanti should of either lost the game or won it..thats the way i would of loved to seen him play his last game. I wouldnt of been nearly as mad as i was. Just give it to Armanti.

  191. Griz Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 10:07 am

    with only 1 sec left on the clock…he simply didn't have the time to run….HAD to throw

  192. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Crowd? Very respectable, but less than capacity. Not a factor in the outcome.

    Noise? Possibly a factor in some of the several first-half procedural penalties, but I'm not sure either of those turned out to be drive-stoppers in and of themselves. Less a factor in the second half.

    Weather (as in temp)? Probably a factor in numerous dropped passes. Two or three drops were because of good hits by the MT defense, but five or six were flat out drops. AE should have had at least five more completions. Even Cline dropped a few, both before and after he was laid out on the MT sideline. MT receivers dropped two or three, too; given that they threw exactly half as often as we, the ratio of dropped "catchable" balls was not all that different–which argues that both teams' receivers could blame the cold. I'd rate the effect of temps roughly a wash.

    Penalties? Definitely a factor–11 for 131 versus two for 15. And we still manage to put up 497 yards? Along with the drops which, as Gwalt points out, stopped at least three drives in the first half, penalty yardage made it difficult to sustain drives and possession. Personal fouls, holding, pass interference–those 10- and 15-yarders are killers. In that regard, we were hardly different than we've been all year–i. e., highly penalized, especially for major penalties. But with the exception of Elon, Richmond and ECU, our opposition wasn't of the same caliber as MT.

    Surprising statistic, rather uncharacteristic of our team: time of possession was nearly 10 minutes more than MT.

    Most impressive aspect of the MT team? To me, their O-line. Great holes for #34 (#24 too, but he isn't nearly as good), and great downfield blocking.

    App the better team? Not sure how we could claim that. More individually talented overall, probably, but in a game between very evenly matched teams, the better team is the one that makes fewer mistakes. Yesterday, that was clearly MT.

    Arm-chair quarterbacking (in addition to last play call)? 1. As one of the numerous MT fans named some variation of "griz" mentions (and as our play-by-play guys kept wondering), why did MT become pass-happy in the first half after their opening drive? Our D pretty much totally shut them down in the first half once they started passing on first down. And their highly regarded WR–Mariani, I believe it is–had only three for 39 the entire game. I don't think the game would have been as close if they'd stuck to the run in second and third quarters.

    2. App has to get better at cover corner (especially Gainey), and more consistent in the FG kicking game. That's not a knock on Vitaris' performance yesterday–the blocked kick resulted from a bad snap, and conditions could easily be blamed for the other miss. But overall this season, we've had about as many heart-in-the-throat FG moments as FSU back in the wide right days. We need to be able to count on three points any time we line up a 45-yard or shorter kick.

  193. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 10:28 am

    Frank, you are stupid. Size was a factor and helped you, but our smaller, quicker defense was the reson for the lost. 12 dropped passes, 1 for 3 on FG's, and 11 flags to your home town 2 lost the game. Like Jerry Moore said, it was a great game for the FCS. You guys drove down when you had to to win, but our offense moved the ball a lot better than yours did.

  194. David

    December 13, 2009 at 10:30 am

    So we're guaranteed to face Montana @ UM in the future – 2013….Looking forward to the revenge – but what a year that will be…On the road @ UGA, McNeese St, Furman, Elon, Wofford not to mention UM….Rowdy road schedule…

    Thanks to Armanti for everything he has bestowed upon this fine football dynasty.

    Bring on Florida.

  195. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 10:30 am

    I would have been upset Armanti didn't run if the play never developed, but it did and Quick just dropped it.

  196. Delmar

    December 13, 2009 at 10:35 am

    with only 1 sec left on the clock…he simply didn’t have the time to run….HAD to throw

    With 1 second left you can run or throw, either way, you're not going to get another play.

  197. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 10:37 am

    No, Griz Fan, you're wrong. One second, one play, regardless. Many App fans who've watched AE for four years trust him to make three must-have yards more than we trust any other player (Gwalt, I'm talking about a designed run here, not a pass-run option). Throwing the ball introduced another variable into the mix–in this case, Quick. The pass wasn't absolutely perfect, but it was very catchable.

    As great as he's been, many of us would have preferred to see the game completely in AE's hands, particularly given the number of dropped passes we had in the other 59 minutes, 59 seconds. (Given that MT had a few drops, too, and that we threw exactly twice as often, I'd say the cold affected receivers about equally on a statistical basis.)

  198. Mominator

    December 13, 2009 at 10:50 am

    Dan-you must be related to one of the coaches.
    Could the reason we have been listed as having one of the top five offensives in the FCS have anything to do with incredible talent?? Who couldn't be a great coach with that group!

    Having said that, I thought the play calling was not bad this game. Too bad for Quick that he
    missed a tough catch. One thing about ASU, they NEVER give up. I thought we would pull it out in the end, because they have so many times in close games.

    Congratulations to all the boys from both teams on a hard fought game!! Best wishes to all the seniors in the coming year.

  199. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Exactly, Delmar. And after watching AE for four years, many App fans would trust him to get three must-have yards more than any other player; how many times have we seen him do that? And throwing it merely introduced another variable into the mix–in this case, Quick.

  200. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Yes Mominator – that's it, i'm Jerry Moore's illegitimate son. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the coaches being at least partly responsible for the team's success. Hell, let's just have a chimpanzee on the sideline throwing darts at a play chart, and we'll run that. We have both great coaches and great talent one or the other doesn't get you as far as we got this year. And DRM, I agree with you completely, would have preferred AE run that one in also.

  201. clayton

    December 13, 2009 at 11:08 am

    Brian Quick is the man.

  202. Mominator

    December 13, 2009 at 11:11 am

    That's a good idea Dan!

  203. herbstreitsucks form

    December 13, 2009 at 11:13 am

    The new era starts today. Let's hope this new young team that will be lead by Jamal Jackson get us back to champion status.

    Unless injured Jamal will be our QB next year. Mark my words.

  204. herbstreitsucks form

    December 13, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Ugg, that next game day counter is awful. That's way too many days.

  205. AppFan14

    December 13, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Congrats to Montana really good team great RB. Ive got my season tickets to app next year reserved same seats and im going to armanti's first game in carolina no matter what!!! O and all app fans and griz fans now you see wha that holding call on the kickoff did to us!!! without that devon scores on the screen that got us to the 3! GO APP!!
    Griz beat nova and keep title out of CAA

  206. AppFan14

    December 13, 2009 at 11:27 am

    I agree coaches are a HUGE part to a team Jerry is the best ive ever seen but watching that game i was calling for the ARMANTI LEAP over the O line and D line

  207. appfanmidwest

    December 13, 2009 at 11:39 am

    The exciting thing is that we have two more years of B. Quick. He will be one of the best receivers ever in FCS.

    Armanti and seniors- thank you for the magical moments. You have really put App State on the map! We love you!!!

  208. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 11:43 am

    At this point in his development, it seems to me Quick is at his best when the throw makes him leap, leaving him no choice but to catch the ball in his hands, and thus not letting it get to his body (or near a defender's hands).

  209. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 11:45 am

    AE's career stats, by year:

    2006 – 15 games, started 13; 3,404 total yards, 30 TDs, NC (team 14-1)

    2007 – 11 games, started 11; 3,536 total yards, 38 TDs, NC (team 13-2)

    2008 – 13 games, started 13; 3,843 total yards, 41 TDs (team 11-3)

    2009 – 12 games, started 12: 3,970 total yards, 30 TDs (team 11-3)

    Totals – 51 games (49 as starter–42 wins, 7 losses–86%); 14,753 total yards (10,392 passing, 4,361 rushing), 139 TDs (team 49-9–84%). Most rushing yards, year 2 (1,588); most passing yards, year 4 (3,291). Remarkably consistent in total yardage: 3,400+, 3,500+, 3,800+, 3,900+.

    As Coach Moore told the press yesterday, they will cover (and we will watch) many, perhaps hundreds, more games before we see another AE.

  210. FrozenGriz

    December 13, 2009 at 11:47 am

    The comments by Purple and Gold are the reasons that people don't like the CAA and JMU in particular. They consistently claim superiority over the other conferences and make comments like "the Griz don't play anybody". Well if you made an attempt to expand your football knowledge across the Mississippi river you would find out otherwise. Last year the Griz went to JMU and thumped them pretty good. This year App State came here and almost beat the Griz despite almost every adversity you can face. One reason is that the App. State coach is a classy coach and the JMU coach isn't. The CAA has some good teams but their self proclaimed superiority is a sham. We have never played Villanova but they don't seem to have the talent and experience that the App State team had.

  211. MontanaFan

    December 13, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Incredible game – it's fun to watch the two FCS dynasties head-to-head. AE was a stud, but fortunately for Montana, Reynolds brought his A game. I don't think we would have won anywhere but Missoula, though. Is AE expected to get drafted? Seems like NFL teams are really reluctant to take chances on undersized QBs these days. It would be a shame if we don't get to watch him play on Sundays.

  212. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    As JM told the press yesterday, they will cover (and we will watch) many, perhaps hundreds, more games before we see another player like Edwards.

    AE, year-by-year (2006 through 2009):

    Games/starts: 15/13, 11/11, 13,13, 12,12
    Total yards: 3,404, 3,536, 3,843, 3,970 – 14,753 in total (4,361 rush, 10,392 pass)
    TDs: 30, 38, 41, 30 – 139 in total
    W-L as starter: 13-0, 9-2, 10-3, 11-2 – total
    42-7, or 86% (team 49-9, 84%)

    As to undersized QBs, who knows AE's NFL chances. But he's much in the same mould as Pat White (both style and size). Except that AE is a better passer.

  213. AppFan14

    December 13, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    MontanaFan i looked it up AE is projected 5th round and carolina was at the rock when we faced chatty! great game by both teams

  214. DRM

    December 13, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    AE is in the same mould (and approximate size) as Pat White. And AE is a better passer than White.

  215. Delmar

    December 13, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Yep, I was expecting QB draw. Drop back to pass, then AE right up the middle… Quick is good, he makes that catch if Armanti throws it 12 feet off the ground, but when it's low like that, makes it tough…. (sarcasm)

  216. appirishmen

    December 13, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    good luck grizz. go show the CAA boys how to play football. Mad props to the Grizz and cant wait to play them again. i hope the two bad seeds on here are the norm for Grizz nation. im prod of how we went out fighting. with our drops we had all the chances to win. we just couldnt convert. its that and simple.

    Go App! best of luck Grizz.

  217. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    DRM, I would have agreed that Quick was most dependable when he is leaping, but that last 7 games, he has ran some great short routs. That was one of them. He progressed very well this year into a complete reciever. Just like we have not seen a fumble since he was loose with the ball in the McNeese St game, I bet we do not see many drops next year after this game.

  218. Gwaltineer

    December 13, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    He just dropped a pass. He caught for 135 yards. It's tough to argue with the play calling when the play got your best target open in the end zone. He just dropped this one.

  219. Joe

    December 13, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Great Game App Fans! I agree with Montanafan. I think the outcome would have been different had we played you anywhere else. The Griz stadium is a tough venue for anyone but the griz. That was the best football I have ever watched, ever! I will be looking for Armanti on sundays! You guys are full of class, thanks for coming here to Missoula! Does anyone know what the odds and point spread were before the game?

  220. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Can't tell you how depressing it is that the countdown clock reads 262…

  221. AppOrange

    December 13, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    I did not sleep last night

  222. ASUMtneer

    December 13, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    me either…. to upset, did go see Supaman Graduate today…… Peacock stopped the graduation ceremony once AE's name was announced, brought up Jerry Moore, said some nice words, and then let the ceremony carry on… Totally Awesome!

  223. depressedapp

    December 13, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Anyone have any anti-depressants they can loan me?

  224. Jack

    December 13, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    I just graduated today from ASU. There was a standing ovation for Armanti when he walked across the stage. Chancellor Peacock halted the ceremony, and brought Coach Moore on the stage with AE. He then said a few words about what AE had meant to ASU. It was awesome.

  225. AppOrange

    December 13, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Mtn, nice update, did he get a better standing O than at the Western game, I thought that was a little lame.

  226. mtd SECURITY

    December 13, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Anyone know our Football Schedule next year.

    mtdrago is now mtd SECURITY.

  227. parking lot

    December 13, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    saw this mentioned above "bring on florida"

    season actually starts at chattanooga. we dont play florida till nov. 15th.

  228. Rhodes-IL

    December 13, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    future schedules go to then other links
    regular SOCON schedule and Florida are the highlights

  229. Chuck

    December 13, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Hard to believe that Armanti is no longer a student at ASU. Seems like yesterday he was a freshman. Here is to the greatest ASU football player ever!

  230. Appnaysayer

    December 13, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Random thoughts:

    Weather: Non-factor
    Crowd: Non-factor
    Mariani: Non-factor
    Montana’s O Line: Factor
    Lanston Tanyi’s absence against the run: Factor

    Problems we didn’t fix over the last three games:

    Ridiculous penalties (O line wins the kewpie doll here; You could blame noise, but they got the same penalties against UR and SCSU. Personal fouls and crucial facemask didn’t help).

    Spotty kick coverage and mediocre kicking game (Martin had a pretty good day, but that’s about all you can say. Montana had good field position every time)

    Questionable secondary (unable to cover one-on-one when it matters; See Gainey v. Trey Gray at UR and on Saturday)

    Unimaginative play-calling (if ever there was a time for a QB draw, it was during that last series; See DRM’s post above)

    Good to see Armanti graduate and ahead of schedule. With him gone, can we fill the house that he built? Will Yosef Club please stop sending out letters about championship tickets until we actually qualify?

  231. Garrett

    December 13, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Man, what a game! But damn, how disappointing! We dropped more passes than I've ever seen us drop, and it would've been a different game had we just hung on to a few of those… and if AE had taken it himself on that last play.

    If the same teams on the field last night were to play 10 times, App wins 8.

    But gotta credit UM for a great game too. Your RB is awesome and we had no answer for him. Regardless of other posts here, I think your size was a factor too, y'all got some big boys!

    For the Grizz fans on here, you all are the classiest bunch of fans we've come across. Its a pleasure having folks like you join in on our board. Last night was the championship game… either of our teams would crush Nova next week. Good luck in Appanooga next week, I don't think you'll need it but I'm pulling for you!

    To AE… I mean, really, what can you say? Thanks doesn't even come close. But, thanks for an unforgettable 4 years. Not to take away from the rest of the team but, AE single handedly changed App St in so many ways, from the football team to the whole university. I can't wait to see him play on Sundays!!

    Gut wrenching, hearbreaking loss last night to a great UM team but, IT'S GREAT TO BE A MOUNTAINEER!!! I SAID IT'S GREAT TO BE A MOUNTAINEER!!! I SAID IT'S GREAT TO BE A MOUNTAINEER!!!

  232. Grizzled

    December 13, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I wouldn't beat up the Oline too much. They gave AE a ton of time to throw and should be commended for that. Is it true that AE will go to Carolina? I will definitely cheer for him- a stark contrast for cheering against Randy Moss.

  233. AppFan14

    December 13, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    I agree Chuck it has gone by too fast! I think there should be no other player in a #14 mountaineer jersey!!

    We Will Miss YOU Armanti!!! SEE YA ON SUNDAYS

  234. AppFan14

    December 13, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Grizzled they have been looking at him so we can only hope for the best

  235. gogrizz

    December 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    this was a crazy game. app state is a great team, i wish you guys luck next year. maybe we will meat up again.

  236. Greensboro Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    It was great to see that the Montana fans such as crazy as us. We need to play more teams like Montana, that are similar to us.
    Wow! What a game! Thanks again Armati!!!!
    Go Apps!

  237. Dan

    December 13, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    I know we'll never replace AE, but I hope the next guy who steps in will be solid. We'll have a veteran team next year that should contend for the SoCon crown again. If our new QB can step in and play well, we may even have a shot at Nooga again.

    Thanks for the greatest 4 years of App football ever, AE. Good luck.

  238. Greensboro Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Last night the entire nation saw what playoff football is all about. They saw two great teams and how incredible the fans are. Thanks for the memories Armanti. More are on the way!

    Go App state!

  239. Greensboro Fan

    December 13, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    I will be glad when UNC Charlotte gets their football program up and running. I can only imagine what kinds of rivalry App state will have with them. That is a great recruting area and I expect they will have a decent team within 5 years. Bring them on! Go app state!

  240. appfanmidwest

    December 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I have to give it up for the Griz. The ambience of the stadium was rocking in addition to the scenic beauty. Lots of similarities to us…no doubt…the 2 best fcs teams duked it out.

  241. Bcoach

    December 13, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    The coaches are a lot smarter than I am but I would have gone to Cline again.

  242. Bcoach

    December 13, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    The whole team gave us a great year and the seniors have given us 4 great years. AE you are something else. Good luck whatever you do. Now the rest of you guys need to get me back to the big game. See you in September!!!!

  243. Rhodes-IL

    December 13, 2009 at 5:31 pm will you show you some of our commitments for next year. A nice DT from, I think, the same school that Malcome Bennett went to. Also some big offensive linemen.

    We will need leadership with AE gone (Moore, DJ, Legree) possibly.

    I see Chisome (sp?) playing a larger role. I sure hope Tanyi is going to be alright.

    I've read on some posts that Cadet is not a lock at QB. Jamal will probably be given a fair shot in the spring.

  244. Jimmy

    December 13, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Yes, Armanti Edwards will be a carolina panther next year. If i were panthers management, i would make a deal with edwards to guarantee to draft him if he is still left by the last round and tell him not to go to the combine! You don't want other teams seeing that kind of speed and accuracy. Take a qb with your 2nd round pick and then take edwards if he is still left in the draft. It gives you a back up qb plus a wr. I mean, come on people….We've go freakin' Jake Delhomme! what could it hurt? The fans would love it!

  245. P

    December 13, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Just wanted to say that it was a joy hosting your fantastic team at our house. I was truly impressed with how gracious your fans were that were there. Had an opportunity to chat with many of them and all I can say is that you guys have very classy team and fan base. Can't wait til we can do it all again. Maybe next time in the chipper. Come back to MT anytime – it was a hoot!

  246. Pat

    December 13, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    I hope ASUvideo makes an Armanti Edwards tribute video.

  247. Don Black

    December 13, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    This is a UM Grizzly fan writing from Montana (it is still snowing), and I was at the game yesterday. I think I represent the great majority of Montanan's in congratulating your ASU Mountaineers for a great football game, great spirit, and great sportsmanship. It was our priveledge to have you guys in our town. Best regards to all your players, coaches and fans.

  248. asuneers17

    December 13, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    From some pretty high sources….Jamal Jackson is going to be considered the starting QB next season…he has a 6'3'' frame with a cannon arm….I've also heard Cadet's upset because he wants to be the starting QB….this being said, Cadet has also been mentioned as the hardest worker on the team…could be an interesting off-season….

    I don't think the best team won the game on Saturday, but instead the most disciplined team won…we had wayyyy too many penalties and dropped balls to win a semi-final game…hopefully our team can be more disciplined next year and have a chip on their shoulders….

  249. appfanmidwest

    December 13, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Cadet and Presley need to start at some position…whether or not that position is QB.

    Let's get out there and recruit more kick ass talent to ensure the legacy that has been created!!!

  250. carbine

    December 13, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Jimmy, NFL teams can't make deals like you suggest with potential draftees. It's flat-out illegal, and even if it weren't it's impractical.

    I'm a Carolina Panthers PSL owner and I've followed the team even more closely than I've followed my beloved Apps, and I would be very, very surprised (pleasantly though!) if AE wound up in Carolina. Consider that he's never taken a snap from under center in his career, and he would have to do that to have any chance of playing in the NFL.

    As for being drafted as a wide receiver, remember that he's never run a route or caught a pass in his career either.

    If he gets drafted (and I believe he will) it will be somewhere in the mid to lower rounds as a "project," a player with such great athleticism and potential that you're willing to keep him on the roster for a year or two while you help him develop specific skills. The thing you have to remember is that while AE's athleticism allows him to dominate at this level, in the NFL just about everyone is just as athletic as he is, or more so.

    I wouldn't count him out though. He has shown incredible toughness for his size, tremendous heart, and a knack for making the big play under pressure. Those factors can't be measured at the combine, but every team has a way of accounting for them in their player evaluations.

    I think he will play quarterback in the NFL.

  251. carbine

    December 13, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Jimmy, NFL teams can't make deals with prospective draftees like the one you suggested. Even if they could they wouldn't; it's too impractical.

    As an original Carolina Panthers fan and PSL owner I've followed the team closely since before they had a single player signed, and I'd be very surprised (pleasantly so!) if he wound up playing here. He's just not the kind of quarterback this team is usuallyl interested in. If John Fox gets the axe, it's possible the next coach would have a different philosophy, one more amenable to Edward's style of play, but I doubt it.

    To play QB in the NFL Edwards would have to get used to taking snaps from directly under center, something he's never done in his career here. It's been suggested that he could be drafted as a receiver or kick returner, but he's never run a route or caught a pass in his career either.

    I'm sure some team will take a chance with him based on his athleticism, but probably not until the middle rounds or lower. His speed and moves, while dominant at our level, are not that unique for the NFL.

    Still I would love to see him as a Panther, and I hope he gets a shot at playing quarterback. I'll be pulling for him no matter where he goes. I figure we owe him that.

  252. section212

    December 13, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Final thoughts…
    AE, you have the heart of a champion and have represented our university with class and dignity. You've been part of some of the greatest moments in ASU history and accomplished records that may never be broken. AppNation will never forget what you've done for this team and our university. We wish you nothing but success!

    BQuick, we wouldn't have been in position to tie w/o your efforts, so you should hold your head high… you played your tail off, and I look forward to seeing you for 2 more years.

    Even though we lose our best player from this squad, we are still young and have Devon, Quick, Cline, Coco, Elder, etc. returning next year… defense loses Roman, Gilbert, DTs (all great players), but should be able to backfill.

    If Griz plays anywhere close to the level they played us, they win the NC game by 20.

    Griz, you beat a great ASU team, now go out and finish it off with a championship. No disrespect to CAA, just wasn't impressed with either CAA team on Friday (actually thought Richmond was better than both those teams).

  253. Seth

    December 13, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks Don Black. I was truly impressed by your team, the atmosphere, and the hard fought game yesterday. Albeit I only watched on TV and listened to our Radio broadcast, but I know it was amazing. I think our programs mirror each other in a lot of ways.


    December 13, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    topped KBS record attendance for a semifinal…

  255. GrizzliesGood

    December 13, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    App St fans… I enjoyed meeting several of you in Missoula. You're a passionate & classy bunch. I loved seeing AE and your team live. It was everything I expected it to be. When we scored with 1:30 left I knew far too much time remained. Armanti almost lead you there.

    Quick, Cline & Elder deserve praise for every catch they made, not those missed. As the wind picked up it was bitterly cold. Notice our MT receivers dropped 6-7 they normally would have caught. I don't know how any of them had functioning fingers by the fourth quarter. You have a great team, a great program, and I hope we meet again in next years playoffs. Go Griz!

  256. lifelong griz fan

    December 13, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Your program is a class act. Great players, great fans. Hope both Griz and Mountaineers maintain this high level of play for the home-and-hom series in the coming years.

  257. FrozenGriz

    December 13, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    I presume there is talk at App. State like there is in Missoula about moving to the "next level". I think it is the BCS the should think about moving to the next level!

  258. medic9715

    December 14, 2009 at 2:08 am

    that was probably the best game of the year! the noise, the weather, the determination of both teams. Who could ask for better football. beats the hell out of the BCS! I hope the fans and players from Boone were able to enjoy the city of Missoula. Remember there is more to life than football. except on Saturdays! come back anytime.

  259. Chris

    December 14, 2009 at 2:10 am

    Hey, great game, and I just wanted to say APP state has great fans, Im a loyal griz fan but I sure appreciate your program and loyalty it really makes me glad we have the fcs (1aa DAMNIT), being an FCS fan is like finding a great bar with cheap beer on tap that nobody knows about- Its best kept as a secret, and the BCS can have the macro brews because I know for sure App fans and Griz fans alike would rather drink and be like micro brews! and I have added the stadium in Boone to my list of stadiums to see in my lifetime. Thanks for helping make the FCS for all that it is!

    -and please know I apoligize for the douche bag griz fans on here who can't have respect for you guys.

  260. David

    December 14, 2009 at 2:19 am

    GO APP! Couldn't bring myself to post before now…I HATE that we didn't get to see AE and these seniors finish it out in Nooga. I'm glad I made the Elon game to see AE in person one last time. I really wanted to make the playoffs, but LIFE seemed to get in our way…

    I will really miss seeing #14 on our sidelines but look forward to see where he fits in the NFL. Congrats to Montana – I think we lost to the champs. Can't wait for our home/home match up. If this game was in Boone, it would have been a different story – home field is SOOOO important in FCS playoffs. I'd rather lose like this than win the Uncle Frank's Garage Bowl in Anytown, Florida…GO APP!

  261. Dan

    December 14, 2009 at 3:17 am

    One nice thing about the CO not covering us at all is that I don't have to worry about seeing stories on this everytime I go to check the local news.

  262. grizrgood

    December 14, 2009 at 9:25 am

    What a football game! App State, you guys have a GREAT football team, I'm just glad it was played in our house. AE is the best player I have ever seen come to WA Griz stadium in my 15 years as a season ticket holder. He was so calm and collected, I and 25,000 others were yelling our asses off to disrupt him to no avail! It was also great to meet and talk with all of you at the tailgate parties! You folks are just a bunch of genuinely good people. Best of luck next season and thanks for a great football game!

    GO GRIZ!!

  263. Chris

    December 14, 2009 at 10:11 am

    I have the utmost respect for App St and especially Armanti Edwards. Your beat down of Michigan was no fluke. For AE to stay so composed in that environment speaks volumes. You are truly a class program. I'd love to meet at a neutral site and let the teams settle it on their own. Best of luck, look forward to playing you in the future.

    GO GRIZ!!

  264. Greensboro Fan

    December 14, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I can't wait for App and the Grizs to play each other again. Both are class acts, including great personnel and passionate fans. Programs are very similar. I like the idea of playing in a neutral site.
    Go app state!

  265. Grizfanatic

    December 15, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Armanti is absolutely incredible. There is no doubt about that. He completed passes with our defenders on top of him, passes I've seen no other quarterback on any level complete. Quick is a great receiver, and your team as a whole is extremely fast and I was glad to face you guys in the semis as I feel you were the best team in the playoffs next to us.


    I had to get on here because I had been reading what App state fans had been saying about the cupcake schedule the Griz play, their lack of deserving of being #1, underplaying the crowd noise, and overall just the usual east coast rhetoric of our team being better than yours because you play in the west. While on this post most of you have been humble in defeat, I just wanted to elaborate on why the many cocky undertones leading up to the game are just plain and simply wrong.

    1.) The crowd noise was a factor whether you think so or not. It may not have been to Edwards, but it certainly was to the O-line as well as their play calling. You guys even had to huddle up a few times which you rarely do. 4 false start penalties in the first half as well as the ability for our D-line to get a jump or at the very least get off the ball at the same time as your line led to us being able to contain the run of Edwards and Moore. We yell for our team here, and I think we proved we HAVE THE LOUDEST STADIUM IN THE FCS.

    2.) We play in the Big Sky. Last I checked, 3 teams from our conference got Bids. at one time we had 5 teams ranked in the top 25, and we are a perrenial powerhouse. (like yourselves) We proved we are worth the hype and can beat the best teams in the nations on any given day. Beyond that check how the bracket was stacked against us, pitting us against an 11 in the first round, the #1 offensive team in the nation in the 2nd, and either you or richmond in the semis, I think our undefeated record and ability to beat these teams speaks for itself as well as the big sky.

    Finally… I would just like to add that that was probably one of the best college football games I've ever watched and I want to thank you for that. You guys are truly a great team, and that game would not have been possible without such an amazing opponent. I just hope that FOR ONCE The University of Montana has earned the respect of THE NATION and shown we deserve our #1 ranking. Wish you all couldve been there it was truly special. All 25 thousand standing on their feet screaming in a concrete stadium built into a hillside under the lights and snow on ESPN… doesnt get any better.

    Thank you… especially if you read it all 🙂

    P.S. Decibel readings at Washington Grizzly Stadium get louder than Quest field in Seattle… Look it up 😀

  266. AppClassOf09

    December 15, 2009 at 5:43 am


    I think that the main objections that most app state posters had to the crowd noise claims was it assumed we never played in a loud environment before and it seemed to indicate a certain disrespect for our stadium and atmosphere. We too can get a little loud as I see it the two stadiums are pretty comparable on gameday. No one was claiming there wasn't going to be effects of the noise (huddling, having to get in the linemens ears, etc.) but to think, especially beforehand, that our team couldn't or didn't handle the team noise or was going to be rattled by it is clearly wrong and insulting to our program and home environment. The fact is crowd noise did not have that much of an effect on our team.

  267. DRM

    December 15, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Fanatic, in regular season, you beat two or three teams ranked in the mid-teens or lower at the time you played them. EWU (14) and Weber St (18) were the only teams still in the top 20 going into the playoffs. In the playoffs, you faced an 11, a 12 and a 5, all at home. You won all three, and you're headed to Chattanooga. No one can discredit that accomplishment, and least of all App fans, since you beat us head-to-head. Much as I detest Lou Holtz, he is correct in at least one of his folksyisms–you only have to be the best team in the stadium on that particular day, and you guys have been that for 14 straight times. Tough to do, against any level of competition.

    By contrast, though, in the playoffs we faced a 7 (at home), a 4 (road) and a 1 (road). Counting Elon (ranked 6 when we played them, 9 at season's end), that means App played at least four top-10 opponents this season, plus one FBS school. We are the only top-10 team you've faced (prior to Nova), and your league's other two entries in the playoffs lost by 11 and 38 in round one. (Northern Iowa was probably a more deserving "last-in" choice for the playoffs than was Weber State.) This was definitely a down year in SoCon, but nevertheless our one other playoff team lost by three, on the road, to the defending champions.

    You guys understand the system and you schedule to gain maximum benefit from it. Instead of scheduling tougher non-conference FCS teams and/or FBS opponents, you play D2 schools like Western State. Nothing wrong with that–it works for you, because the seeding process rewards perfect or near-perfect records (and, based on our 2007 experience–Michigan win, two SoCon losses–doesn't reward playing or even succeeding against FBS competition, presumably unless you don't lose any FCS games). But don't expect our fans to have high regard for your schedule, including the Big Sky opponents, given the teams we schedule. Overall, I'd say the Big Sky was marginally better than the SoCon this year. But the reason you guys dominate it so thoroughly and so consistently is because it isn't, year-in and year-out, a very strong league. When Boise State left the league after 1995, Big Sky was left with one good program–you guys–and a bunch of other teams, a few of which are respectable each year, but none of which threaten to win a national championship.

    Think what you want, but noise had no real effect on the outcome of the game. In the first half, it might have slowed our tempo a bit, but procedural penalties didn't kill any drives–dropped passes did. Besides, I'm not sure the procedural penalties weren't as much due to defensive movement, which our O-line didn't handle well at all, as to noise.

  268. GRZFAN

    December 15, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Let me preface this by saying that I have the utmost respect for your program and especially Armanti Edwards. The heck with the Payton Award, he deserved Heisman votes. I bet you beat 8 out of 10 times, but not this time, it was our day. I also GUARANTEE that Michigan beats you 9 out of 10 times, but they didn't, it was your day. This is already sounding petty but I'm sick and tired of being blamed for a weak conference and schedule. So we played Western State, so what? When it came time, we walked the walk. Doesn't making the playoffs every year since '93 and playing in 6 finals mean anything? We have proven we can play with anyone in the country and have done so repeatedly in the playoffs. Both programs have proven that on any given day… How did The Citadel take you to overtime? You only beat W Carolina by 5? Now I know you will say that these are tough conference teams despite their records and the perhaps they are. The same can be said for Idaho State, which required a last second field goal with no time remaining for a 12-10 win. I guess what I want to say, with the utmost respect, is that the comparisons you make aren't really valid because on any given Saturday…

    Anyway, enough is enough, I greatly look forward to the Home and Home in the future. This is an excellent opportunity for both programs. I would love to make it to Boone to experience your atmosphere and hospitality and I hope you will try to make it to Missoula to experience the same.

    Best of Luck

  269. GRZFAN

    December 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    My apologies for the missed, misspelled, extra words and occasional bad grammar. The format of the blog window didn't allow me to adquately proofread my post.

  270. GRZFAN

    December 15, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    ADEQUATELY!!, whew, enough already!!

  271. Bcoach

    December 15, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    I don't care about your schedule you are a great team. I think you will take it all. We don't have to look at your schedule this is not FBS we play for it not vote for it. You played for it and won. You are champions just like us. Come to Boone we think you will like it.

  272. amicklaw

    December 15, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Let's see, if I save $1 a day from now until we play App State in 2012 or is it 2013, I'll have… What am I thinking, we'll hopefully be playing you guys next December in the Semi's in Boone. Chatty would be nice but I think it would be fun to watch your fans respond to the "best fans in the FCS" challenge. Can't wait to see your stadium Rock App Style next year or in 2013. KsomeA next year so we can play again.

  273. RK Hatcher

    December 16, 2009 at 5:07 am

    Best game ever played in WGS. Best quarterback to ever play in WGS. The two best teams to play in WGS. Colder than hell in WGS. If played in Boone you win. I have been to Boone great city and atmosphere – could move there in a heartbeat. Damn, I hope we be Villanova just to quiet the CAA. I hope AE gets drafted as I have money bet on him. Is he really as good of a person as por trayed? We are flying to Boone for the rematch in 2 years. Go ASU and Go Griz.

  274. DRM

    December 16, 2009 at 7:30 am

    Grzfan (you guys are really creative with multiple uses of such a short name!), seems to me you and I are pretty much saying the same thing. My comments were only in response to Fanatic's boasts regarding Big Sky rankings and bids; no other comparisons were intended, beyond scheduling philosophies which, as I said, work better for you guys than for us. Bottom line, Big Sky is dominated by MT and SoCon is dominated by App, though to a lesser extent than you guys dominate your league. Most years, we have truly legitimate challenges from GaSo, Furman, Wofford, and now Elon. Unfortunately for the conference, GaSo and Furman programs are a bit down, and Wofford had a slew of injuries that pretty much destroyed their 2009 season.

    But as you say, on any given Saturday . . . among Saturdays this year, your Idaho State was our Citadel. As to WCU, we have an excuse–AE didn't play a single down, and our offense was virtually non-existent. That five-point result is why many of us are worried about the post-AE era at App. In fact, with a bounce here or there, that game could easily have been one of those " . . . any given Saturdays."

    As to 8 of 10, I'm not so sure. Though quite different in style and composition, the two teams looked very evenly matched to me. On a neutral field, key players of both teams remaining healthy, etc., I'd bet on an even split.

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