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Your guide to AE's trek through the NFL Combine

So 6 foot tall QBs can win Super BowlsThe annual Under Armour commercial NFL Combine officially gets underway today. Among the invited participants is the Greatest App Ever. Here’s some details.

– Coverage gets underday today at 2:30 on the NFL Network. Coverage of live workouts begins Saturday at 10:00 am and continues through Tuesday.

– Here’s AE’s official combine profile page. This page here may be worth keeping an eye on too.

– Something cool at NFL.com – “Fans can choose between viewing two groups as the players make their way through workouts and position drills. Coverage also includes post workout interviews with various prospects in the featured groups with Scott Hanson, Bucky Brooks, Paul Burmeister and Steve Wyche offering analysis and commentary.”

– Here’s the list of drills.

– Something new – “QB Tracking Information Technology: New to NFL Network’s coverage, QB Tracking provides additional, unofficial statistics for viewers during the quarterback and wide receiver pass and reception workouts. QB Tracking records the distance thrown, ball velocity, and time it takes to go from the hand of the quarterback to that of the wide receiver.”

– While you wait, just KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!

47 Comments

  1. wcufan

    February 25, 2010 at 6:37 am

    Good luck to Armanti!! My wife is a proud App, and we are both rooting for him.

  2. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 6:44 am

    "Struggled with his accuracy" – yes, yes he did. 4 years ago.

  3. herbstreitsucks

    February 25, 2010 at 6:51 am

    The only times I've seen him struggle with accuracy was few and far between. Of course the Richmond game last year, but there were some circumstances around that.

    I guess they missed the video of him throwing while on the run and not planting. That's what amazed me about him.

    Anyone know when he takes the field in Indy?

  4. Jamey

    February 25, 2010 at 7:01 am

    I kind of like that they are setting the bar so low for AE. Makes me 100% believe that in a few days we will be reading reviews of his performance that show he blew away the scouts with his speed, and yes, his accuracy. The biggest attribute that I think will help AE is his willingness to take direction and his work ethic. While some of the "big names" may be coasting through the workouts and ignoring recommendations…AE will use the combine as an opportunity to improve his game even more.

    Good Luck, the AppNation is rooting for you #14!

  5. appfanmidwest

    February 25, 2010 at 7:04 am

    AE will do very well. I don't get the accuracy comment at all. Frankly, some of his receivers could have done a better job catching accurate passes.

  6. DRM

    February 25, 2010 at 7:57 am

    With the possible exception of his freshman year, I agree wholeheartedly, Midwest. AE was generally more accurate than his receivers were consistent at catching the ball. His arm strength never seemed an issue, either.

    In addition to coachability and work ethic, AE's basic "refuse to lose" mentality–inherent competitiveness, I guess–should serve him well.

  7. ceez

    February 25, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Maybe they are referring to his off season work outs? His numbers do not show that he is inaccurate that is for sure. NFL always questions quarterbacks who never go under center and who only ran one formation in college. If armanti works hard enough he can prove those critics to be wrong. Its all about what you show you can do at the next level.

  8. appfanmidwest

    February 25, 2010 at 8:27 am

    I would also make the case that there was a lot of confusion with play calling this past year as well. How many time did we see AE look to the sidelines with his hands up in the air like…"what the heck is the call?" or "why are you calling that play?"

    AE will do very well in the combines. I really hope he gets a shot at QB.

  9. Tampa Bay Fan

    February 25, 2010 at 8:28 am

    WHEEEEEE i hope raheem morris takes notice!

  10. appstategrad2008

    February 25, 2010 at 8:41 am

    There was some things on ESPN.com's combine coverage by Todd McShay saying they believe it would be a complete waste of time for Armanti to work out at QB… they rank him at WR and not QB. Below is the ESPN Insider info included in the article:

    "Finally, we're interested in seeing whether Appalachian State's Armanti Edwards gets in a lot of reps at receiver. A quarterback in college, Edwards projects as a slot guy in the NFL, and this is his opportunity to display the fluidity in space to make it as a receiver. If he shows he is willing to make the transition early in his career it will help him, because in our opinion he is nothing more than a poor man's Pat White and should not waste one second working as a quarterback.

    Edwards is not as quick or big as White and likely wouldn't hold up as a Wildcat-type quarterback, and while we think he's a good athlete we're surprised at how explosive some people seem to think he is. In the end we look for him to come off the board late as a transitional project."

  11. appstategrad2008

    February 25, 2010 at 8:42 am

    By the way… I think that "poor man's Pat White" stuff is pure B.S. He's better than White.

  12. JonW

    February 25, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Pat White has even said that Armanti is better and in a smaller package than himself. He'll do what he has to come this weekend.

  13. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 9:02 am

    I hate ESPN.

  14. parking lot

    February 25, 2010 at 9:25 am

    anyone else living on campus/friends with football players hearing anything about tweeking our offense this year? no longer the run first spread…a few plays under center…?

  15. yosef83

    February 25, 2010 at 9:37 am

    By and large, Todd McShay is an idiot. And so is Mel Kiper, Jr. That's what makes them both a perfect fit for ESPN.

  16. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Speaking of ESPN, page 2 has been running a weekly football column to get people over the 100+ day hump until it comes back around. Article this week starts off with Michigan and I can't decide if we were insulted or not:

    1. David Brandon takes over as Michigan's athletic director on March 8. Brandon's last job was CEO of Domino's. Perhaps his first task at Michigan will be to create a series of ads admitting that Michigan sports have been disgusting over the past few years. Mmmmm … Appalachian State tastes like cardboard crust.

  17. ceez

    February 25, 2010 at 9:42 am

    I understand the connection we all have with armanti but you have to respect the guys at espn. It is their job to examine every player in the nation and to watch film year round on them. If they say armanti has weaknesses I have to respect their opinion. How many defensive players did he face while in college that will also be NFL stars? Not many. He dominated while at asu but as I know we all would agree the NFL is a whole different level. He is small and didn't face NFL caliber secondary players. Quarterback or wide out its all about his work ethic on every day

  18. Spence

    February 25, 2010 at 9:53 am

    todd mcshay was a scrub at Richmond, he probably doesnt like the attention Armanti has gotten…Sam Wyche seemed to believe AE is qb, didn't he coach guys named Montana and Eiseson?

  19. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 9:54 am

    I highly doubt these ass-clowns watched anywhere near the footage of AE that they did of the other QB prospects or other FBS players period. We don't have to respect anything they say, how often are these 'experts' wrong?

  20. Michael

    February 25, 2010 at 10:00 am

    I live 25 minutes from Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Combine is being held in downtown Indy. I'd love see Armanti while he's in town just to let him know he's got at least one fan here in town.

    Sadly, because I live so far from Boone now, and I've been unable to get time off to drive down for games in the fall due to obligations with work & school. I haven't actually seen an App game live since the national semis vs. Furman in '05. Thus I've never seen AE live.

    Any suggestions on how I should try to lend my support to the Greastest App? I don't want to come off as some random creepy fan he's never met. I just think it would awesome to wish him luck personally because I know it's a big weekend for a fellow Mountaineer.

  21. parking lot

    February 25, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Dan, ass-clown? chris jericho fan back in the day?

  22. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Actually Michael Bolton.

  23. DRM

    February 25, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Don't know how accurate or current this is, but a site called PatWhiteFans.org says he is 6' 2", 185 pounds. A couple inches taller than AE, basically the same weight.

    And there's no way ESPN automatically deserves respect. They do have Herbstreit, after all.

  24. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 10:17 am

    I heard somewhere once that Herbstreit sucks. Can't remember where though…

  25. Michael

    February 25, 2010 at 10:20 am

    I think the assessment was pretty accurate, except the references to his acutal passing accuracy. He went, what, 150 passes w/o an interception, didn't he? I think it would have been fair to mention his willingness to play through injuries. One injury, the lawnmower, had nothing to do with durability.

    They are right about his need to bulk up. 185 is very, very small for an NFL quarterback. He might need to switch to receiver, which can be difficult. That's a fair critique.

    Even if he's put on a practice squad for a year, I think AE is the type of guy who will be able to persevere and work his way onto a team, and be highly effective. He's a guy who easily could let the attention from the Michigan win & championships & accolades get to his head, but he stayed grounded. He didn't neglect his schooling at all. Instead, he graduated a semester early with a high GPA. And of course he always put the team's interests over his own stats. He did all this while handling responsibilities as a father, as well bearing the emotional burden of knowing his own father committed a horrific crime and is in prison. He's not just a gifted athlete. He has all the so-called intangibles a team could ask for.

  26. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Look, he may not be an effective QB at the next level, but personally I believe it's stupid to not even let him try.

  27. AppBanker

    February 25, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Dan, I agree, it would be stupid to not let him try. Isn't that how we got him to APP in the first place? Clemson and South Carolina were interested in him only as an athelete, they didn't want to give him the oppurtunity to play quarterback. Coach Moore offered to at least let him try, and we all know the result.

  28. clayton

    February 25, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Armanti's completion percentage numbers are a little inflated compared to typical pocket passers. Those guys have a lot more balls that have to be thrown away because, they lack the ability to scramble.

    That being said, Armanti may be the best quarterback that's actually working out at the combine.

  29. psl48

    February 25, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Any word of Roman if he will get a chance to tryout for an NFL team or is that just wishful thinking?

  30. DRM

    February 25, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Mike Golic vehemently asserts that NFL teams don't draft guys because of good character. There's a lot of evidence to support that contention, I guess, even if Golic did go to ND. AE's character would seem a plus, but it isn't going to get him a job.

    I'm no expert and I certainly can't claim to be unbiased, but the things that have worried me about AE getting a shot at QB in the NFL are:

    1 the perception (and possibly, reality) that he's too small, weight-wise;

    2 the perception that, coming from FCS, he somehow isn't likely to be good enough to be a pro QB (don't really understand that bias, since there are some FCS starters in NFL, but all those guys are bigger than AE);

    3 the fact that AE never, ever took a snap under center–he will have to learn all the three-, five-, seven-step drop business, all the while maintaining his accuracy and velocity.

    AE can do something about #3, and he presumably can address #1, over time. But he can't control #2, and unless some team gives him a chance no one, including AE, will know if he could have succeeded.

  31. herbstreitsucks

    February 25, 2010 at 11:39 am

    McShay and Kiper suck. I can't stand watching them on TV. I think they and herb share a bed together.

  32. clayton

    February 25, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Scheme and size play a bigger role in Armanti's draft stock than school.

    Alliteration aside, that's true.

  33. Forever-a-14-fan

    February 25, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Am I the ONLY one who was wanting to see Armanti throw against Bradford, McCoy, Clausen, Tebow….etc. I have always thought that AE would excel at the combine and I wanted to see him do it with these guys present. Now when he does excel it will STILL not be against "TOP LEVEL TALENT!" Go make you some $$ AE!!!!!!! Good Luck and lots of love from the App Nation!

  34. clayton

    February 25, 2010 at 11:51 am

    I don't think any of those guys are throwing.

  35. Forever-a-14-fan

    February 25, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Hell no they aren't throwing……they found out that AE was!!!

  36. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Clayton – The fact that AE moves around would also cause more inacuracy in most quarterbacks. Mike Vick had all the escapability in the world and still couldn't complete better than 60% of his throws. I think that your argument would actually enhance his rep as a QB.

  37. clayton

    February 25, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Mike Vick is just inaccurate. But, I get your point. Its hard to throw on the move. But, few of Armanti's passes are thrown away. That was my point.

  38. Dan

    February 25, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    You're right, few of AE's passes were thrown away. Because he is awesome.

  39. appstategrad2008

    February 25, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    He would turn it up field and get a few yards on the ground before he'd throw the ball away… too bad that might get him killed in the NFL.

  40. Ry_ATO

    February 25, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    I want to see how AE stacks up against Dan Lefevour from CMU. They played in similar systems and had comparable styles of play.

  41. Waco Kid

    February 25, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    He didn't throw many away, but how many times was he running for his life when throwing? I know some people think highly of our O-Line, but i think their sack numbers would have looked terrible had AE not bailed them out with his legs. They usually blocked well in the run game since it is a zone technique, but when they had to protect 1 on 1 they struggled.

    I just think most of these "experts" from ESPN are watching film of the games against Michigan and LSU to see how he did vs FBS teams. While he did well against UM for the most part he never had a chance at LSU. As soon as we snapped the ball 3 guys were in his face, and we dropped about 1,000 passes in that game.

  42. Joe

    February 25, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Waco, count again.. its was 1005..

  43. Pete

    February 25, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Doesn't sound like AE will get a fair look at QB….

    The LSU game hurt….LSU was fast and determined not to be embarassed by one guy
    even if it was AE.

    Most exciting player I have ever seen play…and maybe the Best QB. I have been a college football fan for over 50 years…

    Got to meet AE last year and he was a gentleman…Good Luck.

  44. Gwaltineer

    February 25, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Did he open the door for you?

  45. dripster

    February 26, 2010 at 2:43 am

    all the top QB's are hurt and not participating in the combine. This will give Armanti a chance to show those scouts what QB skills hes got…When someone averages throwing the ball 30 times a game and still completes over 70% of their passes;that is what an NFL prospect does. Eat it Tim Tebow……Good luck Armanti!!!

  46. TriadAppFan

    February 27, 2010 at 3:42 am

  47. Yogi86

    February 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Mcshay & Kiper are stat regurgitaters. Here's some of their mistakes: Montana, Brady, Brees, Romo, Westbrook, Davis, etc. All were projected as little NFL potential players. The experts miss as many as they get right. You just can't measure heart & desire.

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