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At what time would you like your beatdown to start?So who are the two other non-SoCon foes? Uhhh .. – “Following the opener at Virginia Tech, ASU settles in for a very rare string of three-consecutive home games, beginning with the home opener on Sept. 10 versus N.C. A&T, followed by a Sept. 17 date against another MEAC foe in Savannah St.”

FOR THE RECORD. App State gets six home games – the Stink, ‘Nooga and four teams that were a combined 8-36 last season. NC A&T and Sav State were both 1-10. ‘Whee was 2-9; Lil Sammy 4-7.

89 Comments

  1. Brendan

    January 31, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    wow i thought last years schedule was ok, but this one is rough. I can't believe we don't have a decent OOC fcs game. A&T and Savannah state?!?! really…

  2. ukappfan

    January 31, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    i agree. i would rather lose a ooc game to a good team that will help prepare us for the playoffs than a unbeaten season. ( not including VT). This has been one of our problems the past few years. We do not use our ooc games to prepare us for later. Dont we have a home and home against Montana coming up?

  3. Gwaltineer

    January 31, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    I'm pretty sure we had traded our home and away series ability with McNeese and Montana. But that's just rough.

  4. Keith

    January 31, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    In order to play six home games and not play a return game, we have to play bottom FCS teams. Very predictable formula. Substitute A&T and Savannah St. for Jacksonville and NC Central and we have our schedule.

    I do commend Cobb for getting six home games, even though we have to play super weak programs to pay them for a one and done.

  5. ukappfan

    January 31, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    dont know if this has been mentioned yet, but I saw the bracket buster for bball. We play High Point. http://espnbracketbusters.com/NonTVschedule.html

  6. MIDWEST

    January 31, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    PATHETIC!!! ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME???? Our schedule in 1975 was better than this. It seems everyone else is moving forward, but we're moving backwards.

    This is depressing and shameful. The fans and players deserve better than this garbage!!!

  7. MIDWEST

    January 31, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Seriously, this is a joke, right? We're supposed to be excited about this schedule? I'm embarrassed, completely ashamed of this schedule.

  8. Jamey

    January 31, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    This is why we will be talking about declining attendance in 9 months. We are spiraling into laughable schedules that give fans virtually no reason to show up. Is it too much to ask for us to at least schedule a CAA team?

  9. Gwaltineer

    January 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    I think we should play A&T and Savannah State on the same day and get two bye weeks. We'd win each by 21.

  10. Rick

    January 31, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    As usual, our athletic department TRIED to get a better schedule. We were turned down by at least 3 CAA teams that had openings that lined up with ours. Once again this year, we approached at least 1 ACC team but were rejected almost immediately.

    A guy that I played with at App works in the department and they are all frustrated by the lack of quality teams being willing to place us at the Rock! You need to quit complaining about our athletic department not getting a good enough schedule and start complaining about all the decent teams “ducking” us.

  11. Rick

    January 31, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Sorry for the error: "play us" not "place us".

  12. MIDWEST

    January 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    Rick,

    That is complete BS and you know it. We're not trying hard enough (or we need to get someone in there who can close the deal and STOP making excuses).

    If no one will play us, then why are we wasting our time in this pathetic junkyard JV league? Yes, I know, so we can pound our chests about winning the stupid SoCon again.

    Jamey is 100% correct. This schedule will damage attendance and funding. It all comes back to putting a quality product on the field (ie the game). Fans want to see compelling matchups, not this kind of trash.

    I'm fed up with this nonsense.

  13. parking lot

    January 31, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    gwalt, im a gboro native and live there currently. see them play all the time. 21 would be a joke. wed win by 50

  14. parking lot

    January 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    we will get to see the "baddest band in the land" however

  15. The rock

    January 31, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    While I understand why some think that our weak schedule will hurt attendance, and it is true to an extent, nothing hurts attendance like losses.
    Let's talk about the 'nova game. The uprising of the fans over the loss of one game was disgustinng to watch. Even more so than the performance on the field. Lets think about what our attendance would be if we go under .500 (fcs or fbs) and miss the playoffs/bowl game. Challenging games are only fun to play if you end up on the winning side. We usually have at least 2 or 3 tight games in conference a year, that are fun… Unless we lose.

  16. Gwaltineer

    January 31, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Effort or not, we can complain all we want because we cross to buy tickets or not. So tell the athletic department to cry to someone else. BTW, those games will sell out.

  17. Fleetwood App

    January 31, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Well…it is what it is. I don't like it though.

  18. MIDWEST

    January 31, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Rock- Stupid logic. If that's the case, then let's just go DIII so we'll never lose a game.

    When people are not excited, they are less likely to donate. Funding will start to suffer. Mark my word. Watch funding spike as soon as we make the FBS announcemnt.

    NO ONE is excited about this schedule. Is it me or are we trying to compensate for poor coaching?

  19. ceez

    January 31, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    I'm about as thrilled to host these teams as tech fans are to host asu

  20. mark

    January 31, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Bunch of sad ass jacks posting here on this topic. The 6 will sell out and if not, will only miss by a little. But most of your mind are already made up..

    APP

  21. appfantoo

    January 31, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    The Rock said:
    "Let’s talk about the ‘nova game. The uprising of the fans over the loss of one game was disgustinng to watch."

    Did you expect diehard fans to celebrate our team getting drilled and eliminated from the playoffs?

    You know what would be worse? If there was no uprising of fans following a season-ending loss. It would mean that nobody cared.

    Midwest: This has nothing to do with coaching but everything to do with compensation – or the lack thereof – we are broke and can't afford to entice top FCS teams to come to Boone.

    We desperately need revenue and we've managed to schedule quite possibly the cheapest opponents in our division for home games in an effort to maximize revenue while minimizing expense.

  22. ceez

    January 31, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Mark

    A Justin Bieber concert sells out, but that does not make it appealing or entertaining.

  23. HUMAN BEING

    January 31, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    ceez,
    bieber is appealing to someone or it would not sell out.
    same said for App State. I want be attending either of the MEAC games but i will pick three other games to go to this year.

    I would watch them all on TV. I hope our peeps will work out more coverage by ESPN3. It works pretty good.

  24. Rick

    January 31, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    So the NC Central game last year hurt our attendance? Looked full to me. More than any playoff game and most crappy bowl games.

    And no its not BS. Its a fact that we contacted 3 CAA teams that had open dates and were rejected because we could not do a home and home with them. Thats because we already have McNeese and Montana scheduled for home and homes. Does anyone REALLY think we WANT to play A&T and Jacksonville? Do you not think a home game against William & Mary would be better? Do you think there is a Oliver Stone level conspiracy where we enjoy playing Savannah State? Yes! Its all our athletic department's fault. All these quality teams are just DIEING to come to the Rock and play and we refuse to play them. We did have a chance to play a CAA team on the road, but then we would all be complaining about too few home games. Can't please all the people all the time, and you can NEVER please some people!!

  25. Zen

    January 31, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Ceez, I was thinking along the same lines. It's interesting how there is general scorn for UNC because they won't play us and general outrage that we schedule A&T or NC Central.

  26. ceez

    January 31, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Bieber is not appealing to me; neither is playing A&T or Savannah State, but as you mentioned Bieber is appealing to some, teen girls; while these games are appealing to those who look to get smashed and leave by halftime (That's being generous). Living quite a distance away, I don't think I will take the time or money to travel to these games. I will save up, and make the Nooga and homecoming games. I will be in Blacksburg, hopefully with it only being a little over 2 hours from Boone, there will be a lot of Black and Gold there….

  27. ceez

    January 31, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    What good are two home games against scrubs? It brings in more revenue. I guarantee you William & Mary or JMU would have easily welcomed ASU to their place. We have a big man on campus attitude of everyone must play at the rock. Yes, we do have the highest attendance, great fan base, and as I previously mentioned, revenue is great. Don't under estimate our fan base. We would make a trip to Williamsburg, or to Harrisonburg. I do not doubt that Cobb did not try to bring better competition to the schedule, but I don't think he was fully open to both sides of the negotiation.

    Doing a feasibility study to see if we are fit to move up; a move that Cobb supports. If we move up, are we going to still schedule Western so that we can still always play at home?

  28. ceez

    January 31, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    I will support ASU Football even if we scheduled Watauga High School, but I as FANS, I think nobody can look at that schedule and honestly be happy. Nobody is as excited for those games, and it is a trend across the nation. Attend a SEC game when they are playing some Sunbelt team, and their crowds are dead, compared to when they play teams with more notoriety. Ok, three post in a row is a great indication that I have done too much typing. Everyone have a great night, I will try to catch up tomorrow.

  29. cbarrier90

    January 31, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    These comments prove that we can no longer play the "We Are Always Being Disrespected by Our FBS Counterpart" card. As said earlier, VT is probably seething over seeing some opponent from the "JV League" (their hypothetical words, not mine) on the schedule.

    And by the logic that the better teams always bring in better attendance: The basketball team has played Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Louisville and Georgetown over the past 2 years and everybody knows they can't draw crickets.

    Not excited about the schedule either, to be honest, but I'll be there. The overall gameday experience doesn't get any weaker, even if the opponent does.

  30. AppState09

    January 31, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I'm sorry if someone already mentioned this but I wanted to say it.

    I love AppState and wish we would and could schedule some games with in State ACC schools or CAA teams because it would make for better competition than MEAC teams. But all this complaining makes me think of what Florida Fans, LSU fans, Michigan fans etc complain about every year when the see a DI-AA team on there schedule.

    Those fans don't like seeing teams from lower levels of football or historically BAD teams. So complain if you want but know you're just doing what every other college football fan does when they see their teams schedule each year.

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  32. clayton

    February 1, 2011 at 1:50 am

    As a fan, I'd rather play 6 home games this year and 5 next year if it meant one of the games was against W&M, Nova, JMU, UNI, etc.

    But, if that were schedule, we'd put 180,000 in the stands this year and 150,000 in the stands next year. The 2 year total would be 330,000.

    With this schedule, we'll put 180,000 in the stands both years. That'd be 360,000 over 2 years.

    360,000 > 330,000

    That's what this is all about.

  33. clayton

    February 1, 2011 at 1:54 am

    I don't like it, by the way. But, you have to pay for locker rooms that look like this http://tiny.cc/ddhi7 somehow.

  34. SpeedkingATL

    February 1, 2011 at 2:01 am

    Wish they had waited until after National Signing Day to release the schedule. Games against teams like A&T and SavSt might make a recruit that is sitting the fence with a Sunbelt or CUSA team decide to go the other way. One of these games after VA Tech is smart, two is a little disapointing.

    Either way….go Apps!

  35. AppMan

    February 1, 2011 at 3:21 am

    Awful, just awful. This a bottom line schedule. They know ASU fans will still buy season tickets, so they toss in plums like Savannah State and NC A&T b/c they are money makers and FCS wins for the playoff home field advantage. ASU will take in about $500,000 in ticket sales plus concessions and merchandise. Pay the Tigers $50,000 for their trouble and apply the profits to the bottom line. My fear is if the POB keeps feeding ASU fans a steady diet of the worst D-1 football programs in the region people will soon start buying the mini-season ticket packages and revenues will take a hit. I simply want them to be honest with the fans. It would be easier stomach this if they admit we are playing these games to offset the loss of the out of state tuition waiver and budget cuts. Don't continue to feed me the "we contacted 1,000,000,000 schools and nobody wants to play us. That spin is getting a tad old.

  36. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 3:45 am

    STOP MAKING EXCUSES!! Contacting three CAA teams and getting rejected is like making three sales calls and getting rejected. You keep the pedal to the medal until the deal is closed.

    There's this little concept called "leave no stone unturned" that we may want to consider when creating schedules.

    Hmmm…can't close the deal on 3-star recruits, can't close the the deal on scheduling teams (which should be easy, by the way), and can't close the deal in the playoffs.

    This pattern is very troubling. We have just regressed. I hate to say it, but there is too much complacency in the program right now. It's time for some major changes. Our stock has just been downgraded and it didn't have to be this way. Truly an embarrassment.

  37. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 3:49 am

    Here's how the story ends…

    We kill A&T and SavState. Because they are not formidable competitors, we become ill prepared and struggle with a few SoCon games (losing two). Make the playoffs, but lose the second ground.

    JOKE, TOTAL F-INKG JOKE!! This schedule makes me sick to my stomach. I'm not giving another f-ing dime until the fans and players are given more respect.

  38. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 3:50 am

    pedal to the metal (I'm so mad right now I can't even type)

  39. hapapp

    February 1, 2011 at 3:52 am

    This schedule tells me we need money. This schedule tells me we can't afford to make a move to FBS.

    And, it stinks.

  40. bunky

    February 1, 2011 at 4:04 am

    This schedule has "ASU Football is rebuilding/reloading" written all over it. I am quite disappointed, would love to see us pop in a CAA foe.

  41. ggergg30

    February 1, 2011 at 4:09 am

    A quick glace at our past attendance records shows that 5 of the Top 10 most attended games at KBS came against the so called cupcakes everybody is raging about. For every person who wants to look down their nose at this schedule, you should put your self in VATechs shoes and look at ASU from their perspective. This is about money, and these games will secure for us serious bank. Stay home or go to a UGa or Tarhole game. What a bunch of wussies and sissies. You won't be missed at the best damn show in the entire state of NC, because Saturday at The Rock cannot be beat.

  42. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 4:10 am

    OK, if no team will play us, then we are playing in the wrong league.

    I'm wondering if the refs will even show up to these games (at this rate, we'll say we called three refs but they were booked, so we'll need a few volunteers to call the game).

    Shameful. Generally, successful people and teams like to raise the bar so they can challenge themselves to achieve new heights. That's the only way you get better. My 7 year old aims higher in the urinal than we are right now.

  43. clayton

    February 1, 2011 at 4:13 am

    So, you're glossing over the money issue?

  44. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 4:16 am

    What is wrong with this picture? Time to evolve, cave men.

    1975 schedule:

    ECU
    Wake
    Furman
    Tenn Tech
    ETSU
    Len Rhyne
    Richmond
    Citadel
    South Carolina
    Western
    Davidson

    Huey Lewis just called and says we need to add a few more jiggawatts to our 2011 schedule.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjgpuib_8Kw

  45. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 4:18 am

    Clayton- you know my issues. The SoCon is bad enough and then you throw in a high school team (Sav St.). We could get a better home game than this. Again, put me in charge of recruiting and scheduling. I'll work for free and will guarantee you that I will close the deal.

  46. east side fan

    February 1, 2011 at 4:20 am

    It is what it is, I know that I will be there to see all of the games home and away! I will suport my apps any way I can. Atleast it is not Central and Jacksonville again. We need the home games to pay for the facilities and the new endzone seats. Im ok with it if it gets us to the next level (and it will). whats troblesome is the above responces. We all love App and feel that we are the best thing going but in the grand picture we are just trying to put together the best schedule possible to meet our needs as a program. In a couple of years when and if we make the move you better get ready for bottom feeder fbs teams unless you want to travel for evrey single game. Smile plan your fall spend time with family and frends tailgating and quit you whining you could be a western fan!

  47. clayton

    February 1, 2011 at 4:20 am

    Throw out the issues with the conference. We can't join a new one by September.

    How would you improve the out of conference schedule?

    Who would you bring to Boone that wouldn't want us to return the favor?

  48. Steve

    February 1, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Rick,
    I think you are the closest to being on track as anyone. If we want 6 home games these are the non-conference teams we have to schedule. Otherwise, we can play better teams at their place as well as ours and lose out on a home game in one of the two years. Wins produce better attendance, loses don't. I love our coaching staff but J. Moore isn't going to coach forever. Want to see attendance drop like a rock at the Rock? Go FBS and schedule the schools so many of you want and include two or three BCS schools in order to finance the move up at their place and when we go 8-4 or 7-5 and see how many "fair weather" fans we have. Bowl game?? How about the GMAC in Mobile or the PapaJohns.Com Bowl in Birmingham in January? Sound exciting? I'll take the FCS playoffs even with a half filled Kidd Brewer.

  49. bunky

    February 1, 2011 at 4:33 am

    No one is whining, folks. Everyone realizes that the State of NC (and thus, the UNC System) is dealing with serious financial issues right now. Obviously this schedule is about dinero. The UNC System folks have challenged ASU and the other universities to reduce expenses by 15%-19% this year. So YET AGAIN, it's about money. But that's the world we live in today. I don't like it but I guess they're doing what they need to do. Peacock is the best Chancellor we've had in a LONG time, he knows what he's doing.

    I guess the ASU fan within me who wants to see the Apps move up to FBS is at war with the fiscally responsible person inside me who knows our "money is funny" right now.

    And say what you want about the "greatest show on turf." ASU has won 3 national championships and we're a perennial playoff contender. How much do I gain from spending $1000 for a weekend in Boone to watch the Apps crush Savannah State? I'd rather watch it on TV and spend that coin on a trip to the Caribbean. And if you want to attack me, I graduated in '93 and have spent many thousands of dollars in Boone watching ASU before we hit the glory years.

  50. appfantoo

    February 1, 2011 at 4:34 am

    As usual, midwest wants the discussion to be about him – although he isn't a season ticket holder and doesn't make a fraction of the effort the rest of us do to attend home games.

    The schedule is clearly a one year money play – we'll all still show up and tailgate and enjoy ourselves.

    Next year we'll start the 3-way agreement with Montana and McNeese who are 2 of the top programs in FCS so the administration isn't afraid to bid higher to get into a home/home with higher level teams.

    The reality is money is a huge issue right now and this could be a way to get by without as many budget cuts and without raising ticket prices (yet).

  51. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 4:46 am

    Would I like to make it every game? yes. Can I? No.

    Do I watch every game and attend as many games as I can? Yes
    Do I donate as much as most fans? Much more
    Do I care about the program? As much or more than most

    Does that make me less of a fan?

    It would seem that we are headed in the wrong direction, plain and simple. Sometimes, trying hard isn't enough. We need people who can close the deal.

    I guess it all comes back to vision. I have one and most do not.

  52. Asubradley

    February 1, 2011 at 4:56 am

    I am a season ticket holder and pay all together about 700$ a year. With teams like this I might not renew. I am very disappointed. Does this help them push us to FBS playing small schools with losing records? I think Cobb owes us an explanation. Someone talk me off the ledge.

  53. hapapp

    February 1, 2011 at 5:01 am

    I totally understand the schedule and why it is what it is. I think the biggest problem I have is the three home games in a row. For some of us, who live out of state it is a bit more difficult to make the trip three weekends in a row. I plan to be there as always but it won't be an easy sell on the homefront. I could see folks ditching the SSU game as much for when it is as opposed to who it is.

  54. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 5:15 am

    Here's my real beef:

    I hear people make excuses that we need the money which is why we have to schedule high school teams at home. OK, I get it.

    Why does this same standard not apply to UNC, NC State, and ECU? I made the case three years ago that we should keep the money in state and that they should be forced to play us, but they somehow get away with scheduling two other teams from the SoCon.

    I'm pissed and writing letters to the powers that be about this issue. It's time for App fans everywhere to stand up for how great we are and how much greater we can be. I'm sick of this Tarhole BS.

  55. Gwaltineer

    February 1, 2011 at 5:15 am

    Here is what I like about the schedule
    1. We play an FBS school who is within driving distance. A school in Va is as good as a school in NC. It is a much better game than LSU or Florida.
    2. A timely Bye week after Chatty and Wofford.
    3. 6 home games
    4. Another non conference game against an In State team. If we are goign to complain that Wake, ECU, State, and NC don't play us enough for their FCS game, then we need to toss a bone to in state or nearby schools for our warm up game.

  56. Boonedocks

    February 1, 2011 at 5:16 am

    Agreed hapapp, for me the three weekends in a row is much more of an issue than who we're playing.

    I can't think of a better way to spend a Fall Saturday afternoon, than beer in hand, tailgating in Boone. It doesn't really matter to me who we play. Whatever I would be doing at home isn't as much fun.

    However, I'm sure everyone would like to see some better games but that is what we have.

    The three weeks in a row is going to be tough considering I live farther away from Boone. But, I plan on being there!

  57. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 5:17 am

    We talk about ECU being the red-headed step child. WE are the ones getting the shaft and the nonsense has to stop NOW.

  58. ggergg30

    February 1, 2011 at 5:27 am

    Great post, Gwaltineer. AppFanMidWipe dropped by the MMB today. Thankfully he didn't stay long.

  59. naysayerofappnaysaye

    February 1, 2011 at 5:29 am

    Midwest, quit being such a baby. We're all in this situation, so why don't you suck it up and STFU

  60. The rock

    February 1, 2011 at 5:32 am

    Appfantoo,
    Obviously I don't expect anyone to be happy about app being eliminated from the playoffs. I certainly was not. What I was referring to is the "fans" turning their back on the team, the players, and the coaches who got us to another 10 win season. And that is my point, no one enjoys seeing their team lose and the more we lose (at any level) the fewer fans that remain loyal to the team.

  61. Gwaltineer

    February 1, 2011 at 5:59 am

    What I don't like about the schedule:
    1. Savannah St. This is what it boils down to. Everything else is nit picking. Savannah St is the problem.
    2. I don't like only one home game in November.

  62. Gwaltineer

    February 1, 2011 at 6:03 am

    I think we could have and should ahve gotten soemthing more interesting than Savannah St after another horrible MEAC team, but no CAA team in there right mind would come down to Boone without a home and home agreement. Why would they need it? We did not have a lot to trade with already scheduling McNeese and Montana (which seems like a great deal now). But I'd be surprsied if there was not a better option with a willing participant.
    A&T will be a large crowd. I would nto be surprised to see folks sit out Savannah St and make the two that surroudn that game instead.

  63. Big Dave

    February 1, 2011 at 6:06 am

    Midwest

    Our 1975 schedule was supposed to a cupcake game for Wake and USC. We were good but marginal and not relevant on the regional or national scale. Now we can't get games becaue no FBS team wants to lose to us.

    If we want better games we will have to play 6 on the road and get out of the SoCon and …..yes …..move to the FBS……
    We have tried for years to get better games but folks if the other teams won't play us then what can you do? ECU got powerful legislators involved to force State and UNC to play them.

    We gotta leave the FCS behind and play in the big boy sandbox, even if we end up in a less than desirable one…yuck…Sunbelt….

    As far as attendance, our fans are hungry for football and will be at all the games and we will draw as many as we have in the past if not more. Am I thrilled about SSU or A&T, no….but I'll be there.

  64. appgirl

    February 1, 2011 at 6:06 am

    Midwest, quit being such a baby. We’re all in this situation, so why don’t you suck it up and STFU

    Amen!! Apparently MidWest thinks he is the ultimate #1 fan of App, so everyone should listen to what he has to say.

    I'm not happy about this schedule, however, I understand what had to be done. Money is EXTREMELY tight right now at ASU. I love the fact that we have all these home games, definitely will bring in some of that missing money. Winning gets butts in the seats. Although it's not exactly what you would think of as "quality" competition, this is a step for us to save a little money. We start with McNeese St and Montana the next year, so this is just a little bump in the road.

    I am not going to pass judgment on our athletic department for the schedule because I don't work in the AD and don't know what they've done over there. I'm assuming that most of you complaining about the job they are doing don't work there either, so how do you know what is really going on?

    "Stay home or go to a UGa or Tarhole game. What a bunch of wussies and sissies. You won’t be missed at the best damn show in the entire state of NC, because Saturday at The Rock cannot be beat." Agreed ggregg!

  65. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 6:11 am

    You homers can settle for mediocrity (actually this is worse than mediocrity) all you want, but you are doing our program a disservice.

    Just take what your given and settle on into your trailer. One day, you'll look back and wish you'd accomplished more.

  66. timclassof77

    February 1, 2011 at 6:18 am

    After sleeping on the schedule and talking to a couple of people in Boone I think I have pieced together a scenario that even Middie in his/her rudeness can grasp. We did not want to play three home games in a row for reasons mentioned on this board. We tried to schedule an ACC team for a 6th away game but was refused. Tried the same with a CAA team. Again they wussed out. Our fall back plan was SSU, or someone like them at home. I got the feeling from the folks I talked to that NO ONE wanted SSU on the schedule.However given the reluctance of quality teams willing to come to Boone or even willing to play us at their place, we were stuck with a sacrificial lamb willing to get paid 30 grand plus to get embarrassed. Such is the price of being good. IMHO, we cannot get to FBS soon enough.

  67. Alex

    February 1, 2011 at 6:18 am

    calm down we're playing Virginia Tech

  68. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 6:25 am

    Fans like communication. Effective communication diffuses a lot of issues.

    If someone would lay out a vision and demonstrate that this is section 1.35 in the vision plan, I may be ok with it. Fans are being left to interpret what this means for themselves. Aside from this board, I know many fans who are not happy about this schedule at all.

  69. nomadb

    February 1, 2011 at 6:32 am

    i'll be there for every one that i can because I love watching App play football, and I love cooking out and enjoying the company of friends prior to watching App football.

  70. bcoach

    February 1, 2011 at 6:38 am

    Appfantoo understand what the deal is. We have a very serious money problem. Having 6 home games helps a little. When we drop to 5 we will see a ticket price increase and another one when we go FBS in addition to a seat license or something along those lines when we go FBS. I don't like the schedule but it is all about money. In a rare moment of sanity Midwest has a point about the in state schools. The problem is I think that the powers to be are the politicians. That is how State was forced to play ECU for those of you old enough to remember that. There is where my problem is. I DO NOT want the state legislature involved in collage sports scheduling. That is a very slippery slope. I dislike VT very much but it is driving distance for most of our fans and that is good. I don't like the other two non conf games but we need 6 games and one is in state. It is what it is but more importantly it is what it has to be for now.

  71. Boonedocks

    February 1, 2011 at 6:44 am

    "i’ll be there for every one that i can because I love watching App play football, and I love cooking out and enjoying the company of friends prior to watching App football."

    This.

  72. bcoach

    February 1, 2011 at 6:49 am

    understands

  73. Rick

    February 1, 2011 at 7:15 am

    Midwest, u sorta proved the point. UNC turned us down two of the last three years and even told Jay that they "did not want to schedule an FCS school" as their excuse. Then they went out and scheduled TWO. They just did not want to play us. Yellow streak does not match that Carolina blue so they cover it up, but its there. Same story with others. Plus, the SoCon sets the schedule for conference games, then we have to fit our OOC games around it. Only 3 CAA teams had openings. All were contacted (and our guys can "close the deal" better than any of us, within their constraints). We even offered to play 1 on the road with an game in Boone in future years and they said "No". Then we offered to play them at their place with NO return game. Rejected again, and that was playing for almost no $$ in return. You can say you could do better, but that dog won't hunt. I don't like the schedule either and in no way am I a "homer". But I know these guys personally and know how hard they work.

  74. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Rick- you kind of proved my point. It's time to get out of the prehistoric football league so they will start playing us.

    Saying that we can't do any better also proves my point. You seem to be a guy that trusts that the plate you are being served is nutritious, while I inspect it and decide for myself if it's nutritious and tasty. This plate is full of saturated fat-laden souse meat, fat back and other disgusting items that are harmful to the program.

  75. appfanAl

    February 1, 2011 at 7:42 am

    If it is getting this hard to schedule quality OOC teams then it really is time to move up. If we do not, our program will go backwards very fast.

  76. cbarrier90

    February 1, 2011 at 7:49 am

    Sorta like when they had AE's lawnmower on Duck Pond for everyone to take a sledgehammer to at the McNeese game, we need a wooden horse with "SAVANNAH STATE" and "NC A&T" written on the sides so everyone can beat that to death.

    Or…we could just visit AppFan…

  77. ceez

    February 1, 2011 at 7:57 am

    How about they get to work now on next years schedule to help prevent this from happening. Rick, I don't deny you know proold in the AD department, and with your statement you verified that they waited too long. They were trying to fill holes at the last minute. Its like trying to pick the girl you want at a party. If you wait too long, you have to take what is left, which normally are the ones who have been making out with various guys on the couch, in between keg stands, and getting skunked at the pong table. You have to prepare now for the future. Don't wait until the last minute and then blame it on that's all that was left.

  78. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 8:34 am

    I think we are a little past the "fly by the seat of your pants" strategy. People are going to start questioning whether this administration is qualified to do their jobs.

  79. Rufus

    February 1, 2011 at 9:23 am

    I admit I didnt read all the posts so sorry if this has been said. Isnt Batichon an assistant coach with Savannah State? This does not make the game any better, just an interesting note.

  80. sideline

    February 1, 2011 at 9:47 am

    This administration is shortlived anyway. We will be going to FBS and that will be when coach retires. Charlie will then have his resume complete with 2 nat champs, facility upgrade, and move to FBS. That means he is gone. It will be all new new coaches top to bottom and new football operations,and all our connections to the program will be gone. We will all be contrubition numbers and we can sit and watch games from our new seats in the endzone. PS Stay the hell off the field after games and the players will not be back out. You want to say hi to the new coach? No problem. Where is your checkbook.
    Dosen't matter to me cause I'll be home watching ALL the games on ESPN.

  81. ggergg30

    February 1, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Rufus, Hans was there but resigned before last season. I can't recall exactly, but I think he got out before some bad stuff within the program went down. And I'll bet he will always be successful, because he just does his job in a humble manner, unlike the MidWipes of the world.

  82. bcoach

    February 1, 2011 at 10:46 am

    On the bright side it will be pretty easy to go to 8 games this year with the hated VT and Elon as away games. ( can you believe that in about 16 -17 years that I have been attending all home games and LSU, Clemson, MIchigan and on and on I have never been to Western)

  83. ggergg30

    February 1, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Every game this season is in either NC or SC with the exception of VaTech. Good time to change the oil and take The Rock with you when you go.

  84. Scott A. Smith

    February 1, 2011 at 11:29 am

    To all –

    After reading the above and previous writings all of you sound like loyal ASU fans – I may be somewhat of an outsider to some of you who are alumni or just passionate locals who care about the football program/athletic program – my daughter is currently attending ASU on an athletic scholarship and as a parent I thank all of the loyal alumni and the success of the football team that has enabled my daughter and others to participate in ASU's athletic programs (also Title 9) – I just had a little food for thought about ASU football and its' current "state of mind" – I truly believe alot of ASU fans and boosters need to re-focus efforts in another direction – I see no future for ASU athletics in the ACC or BIG EAST – I don't mean to sour anyones dreams, hopes, expectations of competing against Wake, UNC, Duke or State but its' quite obvious that these schools see no financial or recruiting advantages and they know that ASU is one of the best FCS programs in the nation. I truly believe ASU's best opportunities are in C-USA, the MAC or Sunbelt – we can recruit, compete and WIN both on the field and monitarily. The Football, MB-BALL AND WB-BALL programs can make statements in these FBS conferences now – these conferences and the schools in these conferences are within ASU's geographically limitations – we as parent, alumni and passionate ASU followers should look into this – we must sell these conferences on the fact we can and will travel well (fan support) and we can hold up our end of the bargin when these schools visit the ROCK!!!!

  85. sideline

    February 1, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Scott you better take another look at CUSA geography. Mac or sunbelt would be a step down

  86. Scott A. Smith

    February 1, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    We could be put in the East Division of CUSA – we would have to travel alittle further west to play other two other CUSA teams (conference play) – If you want to play FBS COMPETITION ON A REGULAR BASIS YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE (we are not wanted in the ACC or BIG EAST, nor are we ready for that)
    I think the MAC and Sunbelt football (from top to bottom) is equivalent to the SOCON. Remember, I'm also thinking about M-W BASKETBALL (the competition in those B-Ball conferences are better than the SOCON) ALSO, THE OPPORTUNITY TO CASH IN ON A BOWL GAME ($750K-$1.5 MIL) DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF THE BOWL GAMES IS PLAUSIBLE

  87. MIDWEST

    February 1, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Broken record, but the CUSA you know today will change (especially when UCF, UTEP,etc. leave). UTEP will eventually join a Western conf and UCF will join the Big East.

    The new conf USA (in 3-4 years) will be mostly an East Coast Conference. We will join the conf USA. The deal is done.

  88. ggergg30

    February 2, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Scott, you may want to recalculate your bowl payouts. The members of C-USA took home around $275,000 a piece last year.

  89. sideline

    February 3, 2011 at 4:50 am

    Got a payout of 275 or cleared 275? If they cleared 275 they did better than 90% of bowl teams

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