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Border War: Projected starters annonounced

as requestedApp State’s set. Four freshmen starting, including two on O-line, one on D-line. Another 11(!) are O and D backups. Three sophomores also starting. What about dem Hokies? – “The youth and inexperience for the Hokies, especially after the first team defense, is staggering.”


  1. Ry_ATO

    August 30, 2011 at 6:43 am

    Kendall Lamm is red shirt freshman. Should probably designate those separate from the true freshman.

  2. AB

    August 30, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Run to the right.

  3. Guest

    August 30, 2011 at 7:19 am

    Looking at VT's depth chart they dont appear on paper to be that much bigger.

  4. ceez

    August 30, 2011 at 7:21 am

    Roster heights and weights are inflated.

    We have two freshmen on our QB's blind side.

  5. APPsenior

    August 30, 2011 at 7:39 am

    We have been getting some really good recruits the past few years, I'm not too worried about the young players. It's not like we don't have juniors and seniors, the young bucks are just beating them for the starting spots.

  6. ceez

    August 30, 2011 at 7:55 am

    They are beating out upper classmen to win the position. Nobody ever argues that about freshmen. Generally with freshmen it is more to do with the fact they have no experience in game time situations. First game will be in front of the largest crowd they will see all season. Not playing on Friday anymore.

  7. Fleetwood App

    August 30, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Big crowd. Big stage. Time to step up.

  8. Russ

    August 30, 2011 at 10:37 am

    mr pelican your beak holds more than your belly can.

    If upper classmen were better they would be starting.

    give the boys a couple of seriers before you start throwing them under the bus.

    truth is we match up with VT pretty well, and we will be better conditioned.

  9. the pelican

    August 30, 2011 at 10:40 am

    My beak is money, Russ. You say I'm jumping the gun, but then you make this blind statement:

    truth is we match up with VT pretty well, and we will be better conditioned.

    You have no way of knowing which team is better conditioned until, as you pointed out for me, they have each played "a couple series".

  10. Stuck in Lodi

    August 30, 2011 at 11:02 am

    It's true that we don't know about Tech's conditioning. But it's pretty safe to say that in 3 of the last 4 year's season openers we were the better conditioned team. The exception being @ LSU when both teams seemed to suffer in the oppressive morning heat ahead of Hurricane Gustav.

  11. human being

    August 30, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Deckerz North Myrtle Beach is carrying the game. If anyone wants to watch APPSTATE beat the Hokies and then watch JMU beat some other team in NC and then wonder down to the OCEAN to take a dip and relax knowing you are the luckiest person in the world to have an APPSTATE Education.

  12. the pelican

    August 30, 2011 at 11:08 am

    human being — i admire your optimism. but i think you should put down the kool aid for a few hours.

  13. Russ

    August 30, 2011 at 11:30 am

    My statement is not blind. they have a young dfence and although our left side is young they are bigboys, and we have a triple threat with presley, cadet and quick. with very good 2 stringers. We have one of the best conditioning programs in all of D1 sports, not just D1AA, and the reason VT got beat in their first 2 games last year was due to conditioning. They fizzeled in the 4th quarter to Boise, and could not recover from that game fast enogh to play JMU to the best of their ability. Will VT learn from their mistakes…maybe. But there were no changes in the conditioning staff at VT, so I doubt they will train any different. BTW, the beak belly thing is just a childrens rhyme and meant no harm. Sorry if that offended you.

  14. FishInFlorida

    August 30, 2011 at 11:31 am

    as for conditioning, it was quite obvious in 2007 that the Apps were better conditioned than those other guys… and after that result, i firmly believe there will not be another opportunity for us to "sneak up" on a team that will underestimate us… VT will be ready, and so will we…


    August 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Utilization Ben Jordon at TE for quick dumps will be key in this game. He is underutilized and always open.

  16. clayton

    August 30, 2011 at 11:57 am

    One frosh o-lineman beat out another freshmen. The other beat out Sherman Holt (who is undersized and always felt like just John's brother).

    Blair, at defensive end, beat out Anthony Wilson. Although, I kinda wish they'd bump Wylie out to end and put Aiken on the nose, but I am just guessing.

    People have been freaking out on Bobo and he's 1 of 4 "starting" receivers. We also have listed a starting tight end and running back. We've always done it that way, but just remember that we have 12 "starters" on offense.

  17. the pelican

    August 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    No worries. My beak is weather-hardened. Enjoy a good debate.

  18. the pelican

    August 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    I'm not the most optimistic bird in the sea, but man, I hope we beat those damn fighting turkeys on Saturday…

  19. section212

    August 30, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    The hokie article says a true freshman will start at center in place of the projected starter due to injury, and their Sr. right tackle (DeChristopher) will miss the first few games due to a leg injury, so those guys have issues along the O-line as well. If Wylie can rattle that young center and we can blitz them up the middle, our guys can do some damage. Plus, they have 3 sophomores starting on the d-line that didn't start last year, which could bode well for our inexperienced line. Got to admit, I'm a little more encouraged after looking at their depth chart. The guy that scares me the most is Boykins – the WR from Charlotte that is a player. But he's got a new QB throwing to him… I'm such a freakin optimist.

  20. Fleetwood App

    August 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Totally agree Midwest about utilizing Jorden more. Also, just one thing… Based on experience with previous matchups with FBS oppponents, and the reactions to said matchups by certain people on this board, I have a request…Even if we don't pull out an upset, can we remain positive about our team's chances this season? I know better based on experience, but it would be nice not to have to read 7,000 comments on why we are not ready to move up because we lost to Va Tech, we don't deserve all the great new facilities, we're too big for our britches, etc. Just sayin. Win or lose this game, I feel pretty confident about this season…especially the new defense. Go Apps!

  21. ceez

    August 30, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    I blame everything on Buzz

  22. App-Forever

    August 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Conditioning-Remember East Carolina game??

  23. ceez

    August 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    And talk about a game that happened 4 years ago. Its cool though we play them again in 2014 so I can now waste everyones time talking about that game. Since go asu was wise enough to sell a shirt for that 2014 game NOW, I can wear it everywhere and look cool because the design alone makes me look hot hot hot. I hope people notice my 2014 shirt so we can talk about the 07 game, which was the birth of me becoming a fan. Go Appy State

  24. Gwaltineer

    August 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    It's so obvious to say, but it is still true. Early scores and early stpops are huge in these games.

    I doubt we'll forget about Ben Jordan, but you should email coach just to make sure.

  25. clayton

    August 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    You forgot to say utilize.

  26. jland

    August 30, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Anyone know if any channels in Knoxville is carrying the game?

  27. ceez

    August 30, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Be sure to let coach know you guarantee it wiLl work

  28. john03

    August 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    jland here is a list of tv affiliates for the game

  29. the pelican

    August 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Cadet listed as starting RB. Two freshmen on OL + No. 7 getting most of carries will = (understandable) rookie mistakes, big hits & fumbles.

  30. hapapp

    August 30, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Section 212, the Hokies starting center is a sophomore. The freshmen is now the backup due to injury. The article indicates that he has moved to the #2 position.

    For us to have a chance, our defense will need to play outstanding because I don't think we'll score many points on the offensive side. Perhaps (hopefully), I'm wrong, but I'm not sure the O Line is up to the task.

  31. jland

    August 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Thanks John03! I appreciate it. I'm lucky here in Knoxville to hear about any football other than Tennessee much less Appalachian…

  32. appscholar09

    August 30, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    human being,

    NBC is listed as carrying the ACC network in Myrtle Beach on that website someone posted on another thread. Any idea if this is true? I’ll be in the area and would like to watch and yell at the tv screen.

  33. section212

    August 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    hapapp, thanks for the clarification. I missed the boat on that one, so maybe i can temper my enthusiasm. I am optimistic about this season regardless of the VT game, which I have the good fortune of attending with my neighbor, a VT season ticket holder. But I'll be in App gear cheering on the Mountaineers… Go Apps!

  34. The rock

    August 30, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    App announced their captains. Mostly good choices, but Ed Gainey is also a captain. Don't really get that one. After his actions at FL last year, I wouldn't think he had the character for Jerry to be a captain.

  35. AppOrange

    August 30, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Earlier in the week, Fox 50 in Raleigh had other shows on instead of teh game. Today, the game is on the program guide. YES!

  36. hapapp

    August 30, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    The coaches have been singing the praises of Gainey from day 1 of camp. It sounds like, at least from the coaches standpoint, has really grown up and matured. Time will tell.


    August 30, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Laugh at my suggestions, but Jorden may be playing in the NFL next year and we have not UTILIZED his talents. He is a force and we always seem to forget about him in big games. I would probably go to him as much or more than B.Quick as chances are that Jorden is open and Quick is covered.


    August 30, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    On a side note, where is everyone staying for the game? I'm with a crew at the Sheraton Conf Center Roanoke. Anyone going out in Roanoke Fri night? I'm bringing a case of Asti Armanti to celebrate after the game.

  39. Festus

    August 30, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Marques Murrell cut today by the Patriots… 🙁


    August 30, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Check this thread…interesting.

  41. Gwaltineer

    August 31, 2011 at 1:46 am

    I can't figure out why Murrell didn't get more time on the field.


    August 31, 2011 at 3:39 am


    Intersting conferences. Not sure about the lgoic on some of these. Iowa State in conf USA north? Why not just throw Alaska and Hawaii in there as well.

  43. clayton

    August 31, 2011 at 3:51 am

    My roommate got the new Madden and I put Armanti in the wildcat and promptly busted out a 50 yard run.

    That's the nerdiest thing I've said on this blog.

  44. Mikeyosef

    August 31, 2011 at 3:55 am

    I can't believe it but Mark Legree is looking like a long shot to make the final roster in Seattle. Sounds like the lockout really hurt him. Read an interview with him from two days ago and it read like he is resigned to whatever fate has for him….not good. If he gets released I'm sure another team will pick him up but the situation really sucks.

  45. ASU Lacrosse 18

    August 31, 2011 at 3:58 am

    I hope Legree goes to the chargers, we could use him.

  46. ASU Lacrosse 18

    August 31, 2011 at 4:02 am

    Clayton, I got madden yesterday too haha I think its funny that in the panthers wildcat formation on there they have cam at quarterback

  47. Gwaltineer

    August 31, 2011 at 4:13 am

    can you post a video of it?

  48. Dan

    August 31, 2011 at 5:47 am

    Good pub for DP in today's Observer

  49. App-Forever

    August 31, 2011 at 5:57 am

    Midwest-The team and most people are staying at the Roanoke Sheraton. Metting at 8 o'clock in the lounge(Friday Night) Reduced drinks and appetizers.


    August 31, 2011 at 6:15 am


    I'll be there. Quite a few fun bars in Roanoke. Corned Beef & Co. usually has some live acoustic music and there are several Irish pubs that are fun. I plan on having about a dozen pints on Friday night.

  51. StorminASU

    August 31, 2011 at 6:38 am

    Four out of six experts recommend ASU football. It does a Hokie good.


    August 31, 2011 at 6:42 am

    App getting 25.5 points…interesting line.

  53. appscholar09

    August 31, 2011 at 7:21 am

    Ummm… that website can't be for real… They picked a lot of really sketchy upsets…

  54. Zen

    August 31, 2011 at 7:30 am


    Those picks are against the spread.

  55. Zen

    August 31, 2011 at 7:31 am

    I'll take App plus 25.5


    August 31, 2011 at 7:38 am

    Assuming the line is 25.5. Ask yourself does a 48-23 game sound about right? How about 42-17? 35-10?

  57. Rick

    August 31, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Clayton, about your earlier post, Wylie will be at the nose and Gordy at the end. Aiken will back-up Wylie. I expect to see Shuemake and Tani at the ends at times as well.

    Others posted about the the two freshmen on the o-line. Yes they did beat out a frosh and Holt. They actually would probably not be starting except for the injuries to Bostick and Dufort. The feeling was that they would be starting at the tackles and Xan would have taken the left guard spot.

    Also the frosh on the d-line did beat out Anthony, a senior who has always looked good before battling a lot of injuries, and William Corbin. Corbin was the projected starter but did not impress during camp. He seemed to me to always play high and get pushed around, but thats coachable and he will be better, hopefully this year. Blair looked good in what I saw and I know the coaches have been impressed since day 1.

    How the lines play will dictate what kind of year we have. I think this is 35-20 game.

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