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‘Have to be careful about not falling in love with ourselves too much

The Tiger tamers rolled into town late last night. And a crowd welcomed ’em home.

Good times.

So, what do two early-season victories against the nation’s No. 7 team mean for the Mountaineers, who were picked to finish fifth in the Southern Conference by league coaches?

“I think that’s a great question,” Pollard said. “Obviously, if we don’t go out and back it up, it doesn’t mean much other than it winds up being just a great weekend. But we have an opportunity to build off it and without question it gives our guys confidence we can play with anybody on our schedule.

“But we have to be really careful over the next week about not falling in love with ourselves too much, staying humble and continue to work and understand that baseball is a game that if you’re not careful will humble you in a hurry.”

TOP STORY. Pretty snazzy.

Some great photos over at MTNSnapshots.


  1. apppreacher

    February 27, 2012 at 7:45 am

    Just like the football team avoided a let down against LR after Michigan, the baseball team needs to avoid the letdown against A and T tomorrow…GEAUX APPS!!

  2. ASU-LAW

    February 27, 2012 at 7:47 am

    Any updates on how Quick and Presley are doing at the NFL Combine…. looks like quick's performances didn't increase his value.. can't find anything on Presley.

  3. Ry

    February 27, 2012 at 8:07 am

    Quick graded out at 84.7 which is a high to middle 2nd round draft pick by the grading scale. I have a feeling someone's gonna take a risk on him early because of his freakish upside

  4. ceez

    February 27, 2012 at 8:25 am

    What made the 07 football season great was the all around success of the football team. Not just the Michigan victory, but also the national title. Not suggesting ASU baseball will be in Omaha, but a great season would make this series win look more legit rather than a fluke

  5. hapapp

    February 27, 2012 at 8:32 am

    DP takes to the field tomorrow with the DBs.

  6. appdreamin

    February 27, 2012 at 8:34 am

    "So, what do two early-season victories against the nation’s No. 7 team mean for the Mountaineers . . . ?"

    Could mean LSU was overrated. Given our start hot, swoon late history, I'll believe it means something really positive much later in the season–assuming we don't fall apart later, that is.

  7. NO.2

    February 27, 2012 at 8:41 am

    DP doesn't workout until tomorrow.

  8. Dr. Gonzo

    February 27, 2012 at 8:55 am

    My favorite sign was the picture of Arrowwood that said "I don't always throw strike outs……but when I do, I do it to LSU"

    dreamin, I believe you have our baseball history backwards. Usually, we start terribly and spend the season playing catch up (and failing at the task). This could be the start of something new and awesome. Cobb better start making sure Pollard isn't stolen from us with such a high profile win.

  9. appdreamin

    February 27, 2012 at 9:13 am

    No, I don't have it backwards. We usually win more than we lose early, because we are usually playing inferior teams. We fall behind (typically) when we begin playing conference teams–maybe that's the "start" you're referring to.

    At least that's how I remember several seasons in a row (I haven't checked my memory against the record books): early on, we beat up on small schools, lose two or three to big guys (the LSU series obviously being an exception to that past trend, and therefore, perhaps a harbinger of good things to come), and we begin conference play with a pretty decent overall record. Then several SoCon teams kick us down in the conference standings and, as you say, from there we spend the second half of the season trying to claw our way back up and–also as you say–generally failing in that effort.

  10. bcoach

    February 27, 2012 at 10:48 am


    Gone for a week ( it was fantastic, no phone, no, computer, no radio, and no TV) and all kinds of stuff going on back here.

    Way to go baseball!!!! I don't really follow Baseball but this is really great.

    Sounds like the guys are doing well at the combine and that is great.

    Not so great. Are we really back on the Buzz/Charlie deal? Buzz is a user and that is just no secret. We are just better off without him for many reasons on and off the court. As far as Charlie goes he has a personality that can rub you the wrong way and there may be better ADs out there but we really could do much worse. Everything that happens is not his fault. As far as Capel goes, he is what we can afford. Would you invest big money in a sport that draws 13 people to a game? He is a new guy that we took a flier on to see if he was that guy who was going to shine. He was a name. Look at his blood lines. Hind sight is better than foresight.

    How do we feel about the new football coaches?

  11. ASU-LAW

    February 27, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Over or Under:

    DP 40 yard dash at 4.40


  12. ASU-LAW

    February 27, 2012 at 11:20 am

    I'm going under. 4.38!

  13. BIG DAVE

    February 27, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    I hope this spurs the team to work even harder. This was anothersignature win for ASU. I'm very happy for these kids.

    Quick did good and I hope DP can kill it too.

  14. Dr. Gonzo

    February 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Lents not over bcoach!

  15. appdreamin

    February 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Are you saying bcoach gave up posting for Lent? I seriously doubt that qualifies, though it's in the same realm as my last year's Lent sacrifice–I gave up wearing ties to the office!

  16. bcoach

    February 27, 2012 at 6:11 pm


  17. Appthunder90

    February 28, 2012 at 2:19 am

    Appman and appdreamin,

    Are you two actually bickering over whose accomplishment warrants more merit? That is utterly ridiculous. Baseball an football are in different places within the dynamic of athletics and as such have different followings. Here is a suggestion that I would think all app fans should heed; celebrate both of them. This is a huge achievement to this team which is here and now. The 07 season was a great accomplishment then. There is no need to chastise either party about who did what and which is better. It only degrades the experience further.

  18. MYSEF234

    February 28, 2012 at 3:17 am

    Well said Thunder.

    Congrats again to the team. Awesome job!!

  19. bcoach

    February 28, 2012 at 4:03 am

    Now i get it. No I didn't give those things up for lent. It was called vacation. Try it. It was great. I actually looked around and saw what was happening. Only talked to people face to face. Didn't have to respond every time the phone rang. Didn't have to listen to the idiots on TV and radio who have no idea what they are talking about anyway. Last of all as much as I like most of you guys I did not miss not hearing one single negative thing about ASU for one whole week.

  20. Jamey

    February 28, 2012 at 4:43 am

    When an Appalachian State team wins against a national power, everyone at Appalachian State wins. Period. No matter what sport it is, even soccer(sorry, had to do it). National attention for your sports programs is HUGE as we search for a new home at the FBS level.

  21. asu7

    February 28, 2012 at 5:32 am

    +1 This could help land us a spot in an FBS conference.

  22. asu7

    February 28, 2012 at 6:14 am

    the holes are playing felon this year.

  23. appdreamin

    February 28, 2012 at 7:58 am

    Mind your own business, thunder. AppMan and I are enjoying the argument. Don't read if you're only looking for posts with which you fully agree. Besides, you're on the wrong thread.

    asu7, you may be correct, but I doubt it. I can't believe a baseball program, no matter how good or bad, would have any bearing on a conference's decision to invite us. If (that should be IF!) we had a decent mens' basketball program, the FBS road might be a smidgen easier. But not because of baseball, or any other minor sport, for that matter. The small amount of added publicity/recognition resulting from the LSU series won't influence FBS decisions.

  24. asu7

    February 28, 2012 at 8:38 am

    I don't think it is necessarily that the baseball program is good or bad but we are in the news. That could help land us somewhere. CUSA has a pretty decent baseball conference so I dunno if that will play or not. However being in the news is a good thing right now.

  25. AppMan

    February 28, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Yea Thunder, If appdreamin and I want to bicker about this stuff who are you to tell us we can't? When were you appointed appfan's police force?

  26. Jamey

    February 28, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Conference USA is more than decent in the realm of baseball. UNC-C and Rice are always in the hunt for a College World Series berth. I think that ALL sports will be taken into consideration as conferences look at potential new members. There are some people who *gasp* do not look at football alone in this. The success of the track, baseball, wrestling…etc programs shows potential suitors that ASU can improve their conference all around.

  27. appdreamin

    February 28, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Yeah, asu7, being in the news in a positive way certainly couldn't hurt. I am dubious that baseball would drive or even heavily influence any FBS decision but, especially in the case of a good baseball conference, one would think any effect the LSU series has would be good.

  28. appdreamin

    February 28, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Remember, Jamey, reduced to reality, an invitation from FBS is a business decision. Market will have a huge influence (1), even more so than strength of football program (2) and potential rivalries/travel benefits (3). Strong men's basketball (4) and, for some conferences anyway, strong academics (5) might be factors. Following all that, strong minor sports programs may come into play. But it is very unlikely those would play a determining role. Actually, it may be that only (1) above is a real determinant.

    By the way, when did UNCC join C-USA?

  29. bcoach

    February 28, 2012 at 9:27 am

    It is about money. period. TV is money. period

  30. Zen

    February 28, 2012 at 10:21 am

    bcoach, that's a ridiculously over-simplified statement. There are certainly other factors involved.

  31. bcoach

    February 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Believe what you want. If they don't think you are going to bring revenue you are not getting a seat at the table. All this other stuff is window dressing. Show me one move that was not about money.

  32. Gwaltineer

    February 28, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    It's all about the money…or sex.

  33. Gwaltineer

    February 28, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    What else is it about?

    Go App Baseball.

  34. Zen

    February 28, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Why did the ACC invite Syracuse (#84 media market) instead of Rutgers (#1 media market)? Why Pitt (#23 market) instead of Temple (#4 market)?

  35. appthunder90

    February 28, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    appdreamin and appman

    not infringing on your right to free speech, by all means engage. just your right to degrade asu's athletic program in some self-righteous, pontification about which sport is superior or more accurately a total team effort and who worked harder. it is ridiculous. this team gets something really right and the first thing they get to hear about is a comparison to the football squad. they are constantly living in that very large shadow. dont you think they have earned enough respect to have their own spotlight at least for the time being?

  36. Gwaltineer

    February 29, 2012 at 3:08 am

    I would guess that the Orange draw more viewers in the NY market than Rutgers.

    but it's about the money. all about the money. fans want it for a lot of reasons. But the decision will be made for the money.

  37. Dr. Gonzo

    February 29, 2012 at 4:26 am

    The neysayers are saying that it's all about money. So you mean to imply that App doesn't offer this? Compared to whom? UNC-Cee?

    I'd rather be 6th in a media market but also covered significantly in several others than be 5th in that market with no one outside the city limits even knowing who I am.

  38. cbarrier90

    February 29, 2012 at 4:41 am

    ^ If this was the case, we wouldn't hear another peep from Georgia State.

    Memphis football…say it with me…MEMPHIS FOOTBALL…is going to a BCS-autobid conference. This is the same once powerful basketball conference that invited the worst team in MWC basketball, TCU.

    Why? For conferences, it's not about what your program is right now, it's what your program could be in the future in that market.

    Hate to break it to you, but that's where ASU fights the uphill battle with the Ga. States and Charlottes of the world. They are larger schools within larger markets and will be more attractive to conferences because of their potential.

    I'm just glad baseball is doing well so we can actually talk positively about sports on here for some time other than football season…

  39. Zen

    February 29, 2012 at 4:42 am

    Gwalt, that's a plausible theory, but it doesn't seem to be true.

    The latest TV ratings from Friday night's two Big East football games show the Rutgers-Louisville game on ESPN2 having more than twice the viewers in New York City than the Syracuse-West Virginia game on ESPN, a meeting that featured a ranked team (the Mountaineers). Both games started at 8.

    Rutgers-Louisville drew a 1.45 share in New York City compared to 0.7 for West Virginia-Syracuse, according to the Nielsen ratings released today.

    That rating tied for fourth all-time on ESPN2 for a football game viewed in the New York City area. Rutgers has been involved in all five of the top-rated football games in New York City on ESPN2.

    Rutgers has also been part of four of the five highest-rated football games in the New York City area on ESPN.

    That list is headed by Rutgers-Louisville in 2006, which drew an 8.1 rating, and includes Rutgers-West Virginia in 2006 (6.04); USC-Ohio State in 2009 (3.74); Rutgers-Cincinnati in 2006 (3.62) and South Florida Rutgers in 2007 (3.35).

    Syracuse is not in the top 10 of ESPN's list of the most-viewed college football games in New York City.

    Your theory also doesn't explain the decision to invite Pitt over Temple.

  40. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 4:43 am


    "pontification"…. really…

  41. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 4:45 am


    That is because the WV markets were watching American Idol…. geez people.


  42. AppMan

    February 29, 2012 at 5:14 am

    "self-righteous, pontification"

    Huh? You make far more out of our little discussion than what it actually is. How in the world you came up with the idea our difference of opinion is over "which sport is superior or more accurately a total team effort and who worked harder" baffles me. appdreamin and I simply have friendly disagreement over the impact of each of these great accomplishments. What's the big deal? I swear some of you guys go off the deep end over nuthin!

  43. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 5:52 am

    Put away your thesaurus and concentrate on that internship, thunder; you may well need to cultivate an employment opportunity whereever you are "working."

  44. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 6:02 am

    Z, Gwalt, others –

    Does anyone think invitation decisions made by an established, stable, well-heeled conference (ACC) might be made with more flexibility (valuing Syracuse basketball tradition, or Pitt football tradition, as much as their market prospects) than similar decisions made by a less stable, less well-off league (such as CUSA or Sun Belt—or even Big East), for which market and growth potential of prospective invitees might receive more weight in the decision-making process?

    Understand, I’m not positing a theory one way or the other, but I do wonder if conferences that are struggling a bit might focus more on the money issues and less on other factors than would their better-established rival leagues.

  45. bcoach

    February 29, 2012 at 6:57 am


    Yes that is very true. CUSA is on an IV trying to recover. The ACC never went to the hospital, it had no injuries.

    It is also true that they are not looking at who drew what this year. They are looking down the road. They are seeing that Syracuse football is probably going to outdraw Rutgers football in the long run. They also see Pitt outdrawing Temple in the long run. Those changes will also dramatically alter the strength of Big East BB vs. ACC basketball which will change their draw or ratings. It is very true that you have to look at the size of the market but you also have to look at who in that market will be watching. CUSA looks at football. The ACC has to look at football and basketball as there is big money in both.

  46. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 9:06 am

    . . . to be . . . (or not?)

    . . . truly,

    Otherwise, seemingly well worthy of someone with "law" in their name, regardless of whether that indicates professional association or something else entirely.

  47. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 9:08 am


    You all need to translate the last sentence… HILARIOUS.

  48. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 9:11 am

    By the way, I noticed that LSU baseball dropped from #7 to #20 in the rankings after the App series win. I suppose that seems reasonable, but who knows?

    The "pontifications" (!) AppMan and I have engaged in ON A DIFFERENT THREAD makes me wonder–does anyone remember how far from #5 Michigan dropped after AE and crew beat them back in 2007?

  49. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 9:13 am

    I plan to do exactly that, LAW. I love learning new words with which to frustrate my smarter-and-better-educated-than-I-am child!

  50. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 9:34 am

    I don't know if I would use the words concupiscent and callipygian with your child. Love it, hope my children one day are smarter and better educated than I.

  51. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 9:35 am

    and i mean that in the best way possible… i.e. i don't have children yet.

  52. bcoach

    February 29, 2012 at 9:47 am

    What he said!

  53. JMcCray

    February 29, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Wow, your grammar is horrendous.

    Callipygian is an adjective (one of my favorite), not a noun, typically.

  54. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Dear Colleagues,

    I shall pontificate.

    The acumen of the individuals in this discourse appears to inauspicious. Although the various displays of cupidity and ebullience tend to be the cynosure of this interpersonal reciprocation. The verity of this exchange should nidificate upon the concupiscent for the callipygian of Coach Moore.

    Yours Truly,


  55. goapps72

    February 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    I just came back from the Casino in Charles Town and talked to a truck driver. He was taking a load of couches to Morgantown, WV in time for the 2012 football season.

  56. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    JMcCray's mom has callipygian 'ass'ets. (no pun intended)

    LOL…. can you tell I really bored?

  57. ASU-LAW

    February 29, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    "I am"… there goes that grammar again!

  58. bcoach

    February 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    What did you bore?

  59. JMcCray

    February 29, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Something callipygian, perhaps?

  60. appdreamin

    February 29, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Oh, heavens! See what "pontificating" brings?! AppMan and I promise to never do it again–until the next time we do, that is.

  61. appthunder90

    February 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    appdreamin and appman

    and now i will add also include all posters into the address bar

    🙂 i will admit that i have wanted to stick the word pontificate into a post for quite some time now. i assure you that i am indeed working very long hours and performing complex procedures on my internship. i have also submitted that long term employment application you referenced earlier and am hoping to hear back soon.

    in short, all i was trying to say is that it is great to be a mountaineer and a mountaineer win is always cause for celebration, be it on the football field, on the wrestling mat, on the basketball court, soccer pitch, track meet, and most recently the baseball field.

    to my good friend asu-law

    it is against the rules of sarcasm to insert no pun intended referencing an item you placed in quotes because you assuredly Did intend a pun there 🙂

    Im glad that my ramblings seem to have disrupted the daily monotony that some of these threads bring and wish you all well!

  62. appdreamin

    March 1, 2012 at 8:27 am

    I still think you should be working harder. What are you doing posting prior to 10 pm on a work night?

  63. appthunder90

    March 1, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Ha! got off "early" at 9pm

  64. appalachian95

    March 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Great Post Guys! I have to admit since Pollard has been at Appalachian State his overall record is nothing to write home about, I think the only reason he is still at Appalachian State is because he has had more winning seasons than losing to date, sure fast starts and winning against ranked teams helps, but again that is only 2 games, let's talk again half way through the Southern Conference season and see where we stand, no doubt Pollard has put together some great teams since he has been at Appalachian State, but not SoCon Championships, or the next level for that matter, so with that said I hope the run continues, to date we are 6-2 and that is great, hate to be negative and that is not my intent but we all know that since Pollard has been at Appalachian although we have had winning seasons but the wins to losses is not a great overall percentage!

    We had some great teams under Morris when I played and I can not remember and also some great runs as well against top ranked teams, really miss those days in Boone!

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