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Players’ suspension reinstated

protests workRepeat – “App State has reinstated suspensions for two football players a university board found responsible for sex offenses but who were later allowed back on campus after officials discovered an error in how their hearing was conducted.” Players not named.

63 comments to Players’ suspension reinstated

  • PosterNotNamed

    For the Grand Prize and a trip to Aruba, name them.

  • MIDWHAT

    This is worn out and not worth any furthur comments.

  • "Appalachian State University has reinstated suspensions for two football players a university board found responsible for sex offenses"

    "The Watauga district attorney's office is investigating, but neither man has been charged with any crime."

    It seems like, if they wanted to make a fuss and blame some one besides the men they accuse of the actual crime, they'd go after the agency that DIDN'T do anything. The "waited too long" thing is BS.

    Very glad all parties involved are gone from ASU. Nothing to see here.

  • ASUGoose

    +1 Gonzo

  • ceez

    Boooorrriiinnggg

  • Rick

    I will say that it is at least nice to see some actual real journalism related to this case. We finally have some facts, reporting and not opinion. Gonzo, unfortunately, all parties are not gone from ASU. Tanyi will be a senior next year and is on the team. He was reported to be getting a look at NT this spring, since the return of Wray and depth at DE. Seems like we won't have to find a spot for him afterall.

  • appdreamer

    Dr. Gonzo you're an idiot. All parties are not gone from App. You should really pay attention more. If you go read the article released by the Winston Salem journal you will learn REAL facts.

  • HOGAN

    I'm so out of the loop on what is going on with this.

  • I just read it before I commented. The word that's highlighted is actually a link dreamer! Welcome to the Internet….

    Anyway, it says the suspensions have been reinstated and one of the accusers left a while ago. Looks like one of the accusers is still at App. My mistake. Notice to male students: If you find yourself on the verge of intimacy with a field hockey player, have her sign a consent form. I'd get it notorized

  • ASU-LAW

    Notarized with two attesting witnesses. Also better video record that.

  • ASU3432

    Tanyi @ Nose Tackle????

  • Rick

    ASU3432, yep, it was reported on MountaineerIllustrated (Rivals site), quote by Dale Jones himself. However, it doesn't matter now as he is suspended again. Don't think he'll be back this time.

    Gonzo – 1 on the females still at App AND Tanyi still there as well.

  • Appnaysayer

    Gonzo continues to be a fount of misinformation. He and parking lot would make a nice couple.

  • You must be the "judge" in this "court of public opinion."

  • Appfan19

    Lanston is not playing nose. Fact

  • asu football

    Lanston is the starting stand up Defensive end..I watched practice all week.

    Trust me he still here

    Go APP!!

  • AppStateMtneer

    how do they look?

  • asu football

    Oh yea there were found not responsible..and the young lady is appealing it. If anything, the appeal said there was a procedural error

  • asu football

    They looked great..both offense and defense. Lanston was a beast

  • AppStateMtneer

    sweet

  • appdreamer

    The players were handed their papers on Friday . Idiots.

  • Xyz

    Asu football – just to get the facts straight both of the guys in 1 case were found responsible & 2 of the 5 guys in the other case were found responsible. Meaning 1 of them was found responsible in both cases! Just thought you should know!

  • 2guard

    I suspect Gainey is one

  • BIG DAVE

    Okay. the suspensions are in and due process has been handled on campus. May hot agree with but it's done. Now it's up to the DA to either charge or drop.

  • Jamey

    Say what you want, but I am sickened by the way the administration has handled this whole situation. The ONLY reason those suspensions are back in effect is because of public pressure when students felt unsafe. I hate to have to say this but our administration put athletics before the good of this university. Sickening.

  • Murray

    Administration and athletics are so worried about keeping their jobs that they forget to do their job.

  • Lewis

    I wonder who the administration will get on the student board to take a bullet for them to help with the cover up?

  • ASU-LAW

    Jamey,

    From what I know about ASU (feel free to correct me if anyone knows better)a student's can't get suspended from campus by one individual in most circumstances. A hearing must be properly conducted, in this instance ASU failed to follow UNC system protocol and the initial hearing and suspension was turned over (and rightfully so). A re-hearings were conducted in accordance with UNC system protocol and the suspensions were re-instated. Sounds to me like they did a good job correcting their procedural mistakes.

  • ASU-LAW

    "student cannot"*

  • "Now it’s up to the DA to either charge or drop."

    My guess is he won't because he is a professional Doctor of Juris Prudence. He actually has to satisfy a burden of proof instead of convincing a bunch of kids of somethin that they've already made up their minds. Campus court is a joke.

    The media, drunk on the sensationalism of this story, has painted a guilty picture in the weak minds of certain constituents. If this girl was really driven for "justice," she'd press charges in a real court of law. She is keeping the matter in a quack campus court and the court of public opinion because she knows that's the only way she won't be exposed for being a liar.

  • StuckinLodi

    +1 Koolaid.

  • JMcCray

    Everyone's an expert.

  • Big Dave

    Jamey, I don't think they/we were/are protecting players. They were kicked off the team and out of school during the season, made a brief appearance and then out again for one. This is about the system not the football team. I assure you that sexual assaults are more prevelant among the general student population.

    Do not vilify all the young men playing football because of the alledge actions of a couple.

    Students courts are a joke. My daughter and one of her classmates were accused of cheating at Chapel Hill by a person in a class and presumed guilty until they were "aquitted". The accuser never had to appear before them and to this day remains anonymous to this day. They endured weeks of hell. Fortunately the professor came to their defense. Student courts have way too much latitude and lack of training and it is very easy to accuse and walk away without any adverse consequence.

    I can't understand why anyone would put themselves in the public eye like these young women have unless they felt they were wronged by the system. It is one thing for one person to do it but for two to go public I think is a very brave thing to do.

  • Lewis

    http://www2.wataugademocrat.com/News/story/ASU-re

    4 football players are gone. Wallace was no-longer involved shows her lack of experience. Glad to see someone took the reins.

  • Appthunder90

    Considering the entire "controversy" surrounding the uplifting of the suspension was based on what can be considered a "mistrial" (an appealable occurrence in a real court) and was appealed and the ruling found to be upheld, I am having trouble deciphering why the accuser's advocates are up in arms about the "administrative cover up". This is not the illuminati it is just a very sensitive private issue.

  • appdreamin

    It's all angels and demons.

  • ASU-LAW

    I think this horse has been beat to death. Lets talk about something else… perhaps some more coverage on Quick?

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/03/11/in-fcs-h

  • Rick

    For the record, this is the article where Jones said Tanyi will see some time at DT and that he had been practicing there.

    http://appalachianstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CI

  • If your boss thinks you're stealing, he'll probably fire you. He doesn't need to take you to court. Ever since I learned that this case was handled by a nine member university board, and not student court, I was comfortable with the school addressing the issue. It should still come up in court, because these guys should be locked up if they did it, but I think we should all accept that it should take less than a violent crime conviction to get somebody kicked out of school.

  • bcoach

    Appthunder90

    Sideline has left the building. He is now watching the Angels vs The saints.

  • ASU-LAW

    Ok seriously now Clayton has an image. How the heck are you guys getting those set up?

  • DeadHorse

    Enough already.

  • ASU-LAW: You have to register to get one. On the left hand side below the archives, click the Register link in the 'META' section. I looked at this site for years without ever noticing that too. Once you register, you can pick your own image.

  • You can't really call it a dead horse if new information keeps coming up.

  • AppStateMtneer

    Hope Baseball continues the streak and beats Duke again and can beat South Carolina.. Tough couple of games upcoming! Fun to be excited about a sport other than football :)

  • AppStateMtneer

    anyone know if the game can be viewed online anywhere?

  • Do not believe so. GoASU is not going to be streaming it, I know that much. Currently, I do not even see a link for live audio on our site. However, you can go to GoDuke.com and listen to live audio from their broadcasters at game time. I will probably do that while at work, it is always interesting to hear the other side's announcers take on our team.

    As for the SC game, I'm sure it will be streamed on their site. However, it would be a lot more fun to just join us at Carolina Stadium! I'm very excited about heading down for that one. It is a beautiful facility, can't wait to see it first hand.

  • ASU Lacrosse 18

    A few friends and I are heading to the game at South Carolina as well.

  • Murray

    I am glad that Executive Vice Chancellor Lori Gonzalez ended this.

  • Jamey

    Did not intend to villify the entire team or the entire athletic department. I believe 99% of our student athletes are genuinely good people who strive for excellence on and off the field.

    As for the school's handling…my concern is that this would not have come back up without student pressure. The appeals were heading down a "just ignore it and let this fade away" path until the students made it an issue. I commend the student body for simply asking the question "What really happened?" Whatever it was it sickens me that it is related to my great alma mater.

  • Big Dave

    Thank you Law, I hadn't seen this.

  • appmaj

    Any word on ticket sales start date?

  • Cadet is meeting with the 49ers and has a private workout with the dolphins.

  • Appnaysayer

    As far as I know, new hearings have NOT been held yet, so I don't think that's the reason for re-instating the suspensions. New hearings are scheduled for after the return from Spring Break. Jamey and Clayton make good points. Serious questions remain concerning the initial revocation of the suspensions. The timing is also interesting–re-instating the suspensions on the Friday afternoon before Spring Break when it would draw minimal attention. Could be coincidence, I suppose.

  • Lwade

    So tanyi didn't get suspended again? So who are the four (besides Gainey?)

  • appalachian95

    Enough already, this entire incident has been handled unprofessionally in my opinion, the timeline, the re-instatements of suspensions right before spring break, the cover up by the athletic department, eveyone is thinking about themselves instead of the alleged accusers, granted when I played football and baseball from 92-96 there were some incidents that were never reported that should have been,I have seen some things in Justice that I was not happy about, granted these off campus parties can run wild, I have seen some of the things that have gone on at these parties, on campus you can not get by with too much, that is why there were more off campus parties when I was at Appalachian State, you could get by with more, never witnessed anyone getting raped but I am sure it happened, we all make choices in life that could follow us the rest of our lives, granted thses incidents are probably not going to be accessible when you apply for a job, and I agree the campus court is a "joke" for sure, students being held accountable over incidents that they have no experience at, leave it up to the courts, I am sure that if the DA thought there was enough evidence he would have filed charges in 2011, I think the incident was not all one sided as we might think, but only the individuals involved really know what happened, let's put these behind us and talk about how great the "Baseball" team is doing, great to have another team doing so well, the grapplers also did well in 2011-12?

  • appalachian95

    Stupid question how did you guys add your photo would like to do that? Thanks!

  • Fred

    Does make me wonder about a cover up when Peacock did not take control of the situation and do what the executive vice chancellor did. A few bad apples spoil the bunch is an understatement. Girls, stay away from Justice and away from the football players.

  • yesapp

    And, by all means girls, stay away from Fred!!!!