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writing on the wallChange – “ASU’s offensive staff is completely restructured. Moore hopes that the Mountaineers’ offense will experience a rebirth. “There’s just a little bit of different atmosphere about the way (these coaches) are handling players,” Moore said. “I think the players are buying into that.” QB Jamal Jackson said: “There’s a lot of energy, a lot of high energy.””

80 Comments

  1. Monster appfan

    March 24, 2012 at 7:53 am

    It sounds good … Can nott wait to see it in action. Sounds like everything we guessed at was true. The team fell apart first on the coaching side then the attitudes went to the players. Tough to run a business or a team with people blaming each other , feeling owed something and or scandles peaking out of the closet. Happens to even the best run organizations all that matters is how they handle the future. Satterfield is just the man for the job.

  2. yosef82

    March 24, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Yes, it does appear that Satterfield has done allot to "Right' the ship. Let's hope that Moore is his usual self and keeps his head down and his input little until the job is complete.

  3. ukappfan

    March 24, 2012 at 11:22 am

    This sounds very promising, but I will wait and see how they play to pass final judgement. I am happy that Cardwell is in a more coaching role. When he played at APP he was always one of the players motivating the team and getting energized. Should be a good season!

  4. AppMan

    March 24, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    I certainly don't agree with everything he has done (the basketball program), but Charlie deserves credit for making the tough decisions and necessary changes to get the ship headed back in the right direction.

  5. appdreamin

    March 24, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Yes. The anti-everything Cobb-related folks either have forgotten Roachel's non-performance, or weren't around during his tenure.

  6. Psl48

    March 24, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Cobb has done great things (in my opinion), coach k and dean were bad their first few years. Got give you coaches time and a chance. It's good to see they reacted quick and got he right guy for the job (shattered). The future is set. All we need is Armani JR to grow up fast! I hear he can already crawl a 4.5 40.

    Pumped for football! ECU watch out!

  7. ASUGoose

    March 25, 2012 at 5:15 am

    Does anyone know if the coaching staff met with the coaches from Oregon? I know Jerry and some staff members always go and meet with coaches from FBS to learn a bit about their offense or defense.

    I wouldn't surprised that based on Satterfield's comments about running the offense fast that we don't try to emulate Oregon's fast paced offense. To my knowledge I don't know of any schools in FCS that are running the up tempo offense. I think we have enough depth on both sides of the ball now to play that kind of up tempo game. I would love to see our guys (in my opinion better athletes than any other FCS teams) run circles around teams with not as much depth. I don't think any FCS could keep up with us for 60 minutes in a fast tempo game.

    GO 'NEERS!

  8. ASUGoose

    March 25, 2012 at 5:17 am

    I wouldn't expect ECU to be prepared for us to run an Oregon-paced offense which could help to pull an upset in September.

  9. Appthunder90

    March 25, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Goose

    I don't want to sound like a jerk, but don't you think tht if you have thought about us running a fast paced offense, opposing coaches might've considered it as well?

  10. Pete 111

    March 25, 2012 at 9:34 am

    We are going to Run whatever Satterfield ran last year, with minor adjustments for personel.

    ECU will be studing those films not last years ASU films

  11. ASU3432

    March 25, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Spring Game!! Please!

  12. AppInExile

    March 25, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Glad to hear of the energy and excitement. I think the biggest issue we ran into last year was the lack of a trusting environment. As Coach Wooden says, trust is the foundation. It's easy to see why our kids are excited: they feel like we have the right people in place (and the wrong people are out). That builds trust and I respect Coach and Cobb for having the courage to make wholesale changes that will benefit the program long-term.

    Can't wait for a spring game.

  13. Greg

    March 25, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    ASUGOOSE. What happened to our fast paced offense? We ran a pretty quick tempo the first three seasons with Armanti, after which it just seemed like we started slowing things down. I remember us snapping the ball with 17 on the play clock, then the past three seasons we were snapping plays at :05 and :03. Hopefully with Satterfield back at the helm we'll quicken that pace back to where it should be.

  14. ASUGoose

    March 25, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Thunder,

    You don't sound like a jerk and you bring up a valid point. I just didn't know if we officially visited Oregon or not. I know Jerry makes a yearly trip and I hadn't heard yet where he had been or will go. Regardless, I would like to see if we could emulate Oregon's extreme up tempo offense.

    Greg,

    Good call. I remember with Armanti back there, we ran a faster pace of offense as I think there was more cohesion with the coaches calling the plays. Apparently ever since satt and elliot left, there has been a lot of confusion with the play calling so that could have been a contributing factor. I agree, with Satt calling the plays I hope we get back to our offense of old.

  15. Greg

    March 25, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    I hated to see him leave Appalachian (and I hate to say this as a born-and-raised Clemson fan) but I have a lot of respect for Shawn Elliott after the job he's done at S. Carolina. It's not easy to bring a program up from the bottom of the barrel in the SEC, and he's played a big part in that. We all know if the O-line doesn't get a push, those running backs can't get past the line, and if the running game isn't working your offense becomes one dimensional (as ours has become in the last few years).

  16. Greg

    March 25, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    We haven't dominated in any phase of the game the past few seasons the way we once did. Hope to see us turn that around this season. (Looking at my National Championship wall banners, seeing 28 pts to Coastal Carolina as the most we gave up in 2006 [only had 5 games that season where we gave up more than 21])…Would love to see us have a shut down defense again.

  17. Dan

    March 25, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    I'd settle for averaging 42 PPG again…

  18. appalachian95

    March 26, 2012 at 1:10 am

    Agreed shut down defense and a quicker pace offense, what about blocking punts we used to be real good at that in special teams have not seen many blocks since the 2005-2007 season, what happened, I know teams adjust but come on now that was an added plus to our special teams that we counted on in tough and tight games, let's hope that since Satterfield is back and an entire new coaching staff except coach moore we can get back to the way things used to be from 2005-2007, and win some more SoCon and National Championships starting in 2012?

  19. MIDWESS

    March 26, 2012 at 1:19 am

    Tar Heels are out of the playoffs.

  20. adam

    March 26, 2012 at 3:18 am

  21. hapapp

    March 26, 2012 at 4:16 am

    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere the staff visited Toledo, Satterfield's old stomping grounds.

  22. appdreamin

    March 26, 2012 at 5:12 am

    I would like to have it all: 42 ppg, <20 papg, average +2 turnovers per game, plus a punt/kick block team that is a real threat, as back in the Sparky Woods days. A perpetual supply of QBs like Edwards wouldn't hurt, either.

    Not only is UNC out, so is Notre Dame and Baylor. With those three gone, I can enjoy what's left of the tournament, even if I have lost in the office pool.

  23. Jaxon

    March 26, 2012 at 5:26 am

    AppMan, Cobb's move with basketball, was gamble. If it works out he looks like a hero. Currently, it does not look promising.

    hapapp, you are correct. I know the coaching staff visited Clemson & Toledo.

  24. Dr. Gonzo

    March 26, 2012 at 5:29 am

    I'd like to shake the hand of who ever made that facebook group, Adam. I've spent a few days on here fighting the good fight in hopes that I would educate certain people on due process and how the right had been all but abandoned during this recent controversy. It makes me feel good that SOME ASU students have refused to drink the koolaid and taken the initiative to speak out about the assumption of guilt, the prosecution-slanted student court system, and the libelous media campaign against certain individuals, against whom no REAL charges were ever filed. All hope is not lost for the intellectual integrity of Appalachian.

    Esse quam videri

  25. Appstate19

    March 26, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Jaxon,

    you know nothing of the sort because that didn't happen.

  26. AppWyo

    March 26, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Yeah, I would love to see a Sparky Woods Defense again.

  27. StuckinLodi

    March 26, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Crap. No Spring Game again this year. Just an open practice this Saturday @ 9:30 AM.

  28. ASU-LAW

    March 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    I think everyone wants to point the finger and jump on the hate bandwagon while this topic is still hot. They should, in all fairness, wait to point the finger until after these players are adjudicated guilty. Fu*kin media.

    This has quite a number of parallels to the Trayvon Martin incident, where a guy in self defense shot a kid. The police didn't prosecute because of the facts and didn't release all of the information on the incident. The court of public media cried foul resulting in public outcry and an illegal bounty from the black panther party of $15K for the death of the shooter. The undisclosed information was just released which clearly indicates the shooter was acting in self defense. But this is probably too late, this shooter is probably living on borrowed time.

    f the media.

  29. ASU-LAW

    March 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    correction the "new" black panthers*

  30. Murray

    March 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Life long fan of Appalachian, not a fan of Cobb and the Administration.

  31. bcoach

    March 26, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Am I missing something or is there no bye week on the schedule this year.

  32. Dr. Gonzo

    March 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Murray preferred it when App was a nobody and he could pull for his Tar Heels. This administration has put ASU on the map.

  33. Typical Tarheel Fan

    March 26, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    WE still made it deeper than Duke. WE would have won if Marshall was playing. WE still have 6 titles. More than your team. Pre-season:Harrison Barnes is the best player in college, hands down. Sunday night: Harrison Barnes cost us the game.

    Oh no…I went to High Point, but my dad went to UNC.

  34. asumike83

    March 26, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Congratulations, Typical Tarheel! You have a much closer connection to UNC than most of their fans I know.

  35. Sway

    March 26, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    bcoach-

    If I'm not mistaken, our "bye" is the last week of the season (Nov. 17th) so we get an extra week off before playoffs. But IMO that's really not a bye per-say seeing as though it's not actually during the season in between games. Hope that helps. And if I'm wrong, I apologize.

  36. human being

    March 26, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    http://denver.sbnation.com/air-force-falcons/2012

    I think this is what will get App in Conference USA. Conference USA is going to expand to 16 and App is in!!!!!!!!!!

    The two conferences are not going to merge. Conference USA will go to an east/west division.

  37. appftw

    March 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    The horse has been beaten to death, particularly on this website asu-law. Also, no one cares about your views in the matter of trayvon martin. In my opinion, a 17 year old boy could not be enough of a threat to you to end his life, no matter how fat and stupid you are for chasing him down.

  38. ceez

    March 26, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Here we go again with the wishful thinking of FBS move-up.

    When I see an article that says "Appalachian State University will be moving to the ______________ conference" then I am sold.

  39. sixtoes9134

    March 27, 2012 at 2:55 am

    Dear Typical Tarheel Fan. Why are you here on this board?

    Anyway, UNC "may" have beaten Kansas with Marshall, but Kentucky is hands down the best team in the dance this year.

    Also, Harrison Barnes is a huge bust, IMHO.

  40. Dr. Gonzo

    March 27, 2012 at 4:03 am

    I believe he was being facetious, six.

  41. ASU-LAW

    March 27, 2012 at 4:18 am

    appftw,

    So you say the horse has been beaten to death and nobody cares about my views. Then throw your own view out there…. sounds pretty hypocritical to me and pretty much kills any credibility you would have had.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/tra

    Read this article, tell me that is not completely slanted from the get go. "The slaying.." all these news sources are about the bottom line. if it sells newspapers then screw the truth.

  42. asu7

    March 27, 2012 at 4:41 am

    Umm last I checked this was an APP football thread.

    No need to discuss the basketball tourney here …

    Hey Heel … why not talk to your new football head coach and get him to play us since you can't go to the postseason anyway. A loss would not hurt you now. 😉

    I am just glad someone had the manhood to make the changes and right the ship. Cobb may have messed up basketball but he and KP put us on the map. Anyone who says otherwise is well not even worth discussing.

  43. ASU-LAW

    March 27, 2012 at 4:46 am

    Seriously… the best they have is that zimmerman was carrying a weapon which was against the rules for community watchman? SERIOUSLY. If i was on community watch i certainly would be packing.

  44. Dr. Gonzo

    March 27, 2012 at 5:48 am

    So now TWO people can't read between the lines and see that whoever "typical Tar heel" is, he's an App fan making fun of them. Even after I clarified? I have serious doubts about the value of my diploma sometimes….

    As far as Trayvon Martin goes, I really don't see how it's similar to the App rape controversy aside from the fact that the media is way too involved. Did the family of Martin pull out all the stops to get media involved like the App rape accusers in an effort to avoid real court proceedings? I thought their main goal was to get an arrest and begin a real legal process. The difference between the two is that these girls went out of their way to keep this out of a real court. That is the main reason that I personally believe they are lying. I support the Martin family's effort to bring this to trial. I think it's kind of ridiculous that it's not. Not saying the guy is guilty, but it seems that there is more enough to garner an arrest. Of course Al Sharpton and the reverse racism brigade are going to make the process extremely difficult.

    Anyway, sorry for rambling, but the clear distinction between the two is that the Martins are seeking trial via the media and the accusers at ASU were doing the opposite; using the media to validate themselves, slander the accused, and AVOID trial in favor of a "guilty" verdict from the public. Even though the Martins are achieving the same verdict in the court of public opinion, I believe they are seeking a real trial, which is completely understandable.

  45. asumike83

    March 27, 2012 at 6:10 am

    Zimmerman had absolutely no need to be carrying a gun. The fact that he followed the kid, ran him down carrying a loaded gun (while the 911 dispatcher told him not to) and shot him dead is certainly reason enough for him to have to stand trial and defend his actions in court.

    When he called 911, his job as neighborhood watchman was over. Was he being beaten when he shot him? Probably so but the fact remains, if he hadn't got a gun and tried to play cops and robbers, nobody would have been killed. While he may have felt he was in danger when he shot him, the reason he was in that situation was his own fault and it is EXACTLY the reason that neighborhood watch should not be carrying guns.

  46. Dan

    March 27, 2012 at 7:18 am

    i liked this thread better when it was about football.

  47. asumike83

    March 27, 2012 at 7:30 am

    My bad, sorry for the off-topic rant.

  48. ASUGoose

    March 27, 2012 at 8:57 am

    +1 Dan

  49. bcoach

    March 27, 2012 at 9:40 am

    +1 Dan

  50. Big Dave

    March 27, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Since this thread is about anything but football….My daughter is a UNC grad, my son is a UK grad. She's sad and he's happy. I quite franlkly don care. The little lady and I are ASU grads. If they want to support their schools that is fine but my money's on ASU.

    In any event I believe it wil take Satterfield a year or two to get us back on the path to football enlightenment. The past two years of coaching hurt us. Jerry trusted others too much to get the job done once Sat and Elliott left.

    I like what i'm hearing now.

  51. asumike83

    March 27, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Our offense will improve this season, but to what degree is what I'm unsure of. I think some folks expect 2007 stats now that Satterfield is back and while we still have as much talent as anyone in the conference, we don't have the horses we did back then. I think we are moving in the right direction though, and that is the most important thing.

  52. AppGrad78

    March 27, 2012 at 10:49 am

    We have just four starters back from an offense that performed below expectations last season. Regardless of the contributions Satterfield and the new coaches make, our offense is likely to struggle this season, at least in the early going.

  53. Dan

    March 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Hopefully the new o-line guy can actually coach…

  54. ASU-LAW

    March 27, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Seriously?

    The man was attacked by a 17 year old male. Your probably not from Florida, but if you lived here you would certainly pack considering our crime rates. Not to mention packing is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

    "Zimmerman told police he got out of his SUV, but lost sight of Martin. As he walked back to his vehicle, he said Martin approached him from behind and asked him if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone.

    Martin said something like “well you do now,” and punched him in the nose, Zimmerman told police."

    As the facts stand a man of age to be convicted as an adult (17 yrs old) for battery or even worse murder attacked a neighborhood watch man UNPROVOKED whom used his firearm in self defense. Who cares what the hell the man was doing, even if he was yelling at the 17 year old, the man attached another man with lethal force. If you ask me smashing someones head into a curb is lethal force.

    God you people are ridiculous, i hope you are not a jury of my peers if that sort of thing were to happen to me.

  55. asumike83

    March 27, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Everyone has had good things to say about Ledford so far. I think having a guy who's played the position at the highest level will really be a good thing for the young guys we have on the line.

    I'm actually very optimistic about our offensive line for next season. Kalan Jones will be back healthy, the other young guys have some experience under their belt and if Kendall Lamm comes back with his head on straight, it should be much improved.

  56. appftw

    March 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    You don't know if it was "unprovoked". The facts haven't come out, but this guy chased down a minor after the 911 operator repeatedly told him not to. I think he was just getting his ass kicked by a 17 year old. If you have the where-with-all to pull out a gun while enduring "lethal force" trauma to your skull, you could just as easily have shot him in the leg or somewhere that wouldn't have killed him.

    This guy touts his profession in an online moniker… asu-law is obviously head and shoulders above us, morally and intellectually.

  57. Dan

    March 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    I bet we don't get held to 12 points this year.

  58. appftw

    March 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Back to football though, saturday's scrimmage is open to the public so it might as well be a spring game. Call me an optimist but I think next year is going to be good for us. Ledford and the o-line are out for blood.

  59. ASU-LAW

    March 28, 2012 at 5:08 am

    appftw,

    Did we just revert back to 2nd grade? Lets stick to the discussion and the law and not make erroneous statements about the people posting on here. If you have an opinion on a topic go for it, I will certainly respect it even if i disagree, but personal shots at someone is completely uncalled for.

    Perhaps you should educate yourself on the law before making such remarks.

    "The use of deadly force is justifiable when a person is resisting any attempt to murder such person or to commit any felony upon him or her or upon or in any dwelling house in which such person shall be" See Fla. Stat. 782.02.

    Any person who owns a firearm knows that you don't aim for legs or arms, you shoot to remove the threat, which is at central body mass. If someone were to break into your home with your children sleeping would you aim for the legs and arms?….i think not.

    The undisputed facts show the man was smashing the victims head into a curb. That is a forcible felony and the use of deadly force to stop the felony and protect the victim from murder was justifiable under the law. If you don't like the law then go become a congressman and/or lobby to change it, i believe it to be fair and right.

    As for football, wish we knew more about this conference realignment already!!!

  60. ASU-LAW

    March 28, 2012 at 5:10 am

    Oh one more thing. All the prosecution can do is go on the facts, which at this point are undisputed in favor of justifiable self defense. Sure if other facts come out that contradict or show that the use of deadly force was not justifiable then that is a different story… but at this point that is not the case.

  61. JMcCray

    March 28, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Big Dave,

    I think we have talent on the team that is just drying in the sun. Kinda like NC State's basketball team last year (yes, I brought up an ACC school, but bear with me). If the talent is matured and the player isn't taught how to use it the way they need to as second nature, they make frequent, silly mistakes. Bring in a solid coaching staff, a la Mark Gottfried, and serious strides can be made in the period of an offseason.

  62. JMcCray

    March 28, 2012 at 6:19 am

    excuse me, that should read "is NOT matured"

  63. appftw

    March 28, 2012 at 8:36 am

    You're whole argument is relying on the fact that trayvon intended to kill george zimmerman, when I think its much more reasonable to assert that he was just kicking his ass. The thing is it's too subjective, just like the ludicrous stand your ground law.

  64. appftw

    March 28, 2012 at 8:37 am

    your*

  65. JonW

    March 28, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Not sure when Appfan turned into a debate on current social issues. ASU-LAW is trolling too hard on here and should search for a different platform where you can discuss current legal situations and issues. I'm not sure if you are trying to cement your legal "knowledge" to everyone on here or simply trying to post your opinions, but nobody really cares. I could see where this would be a topic if this kid was a potential recruit or had some relation to App athletics…and maybe I'm just an idiot and missing the connection…but I do not see one.

    Is there any way appfan can give some updates on practice reports or how the player/coach development is coming along throughout the spring?

  66. Fred

    March 28, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Peacock hired a Public Relations firm to make him look good in light of the rape allegations coming out.

  67. Dr. Gonzo

    March 28, 2012 at 9:13 am

    Shut up Fred. It's no coincidence that you're back as soon as UNC is out of the dance.

    Even if Peacock WAS hiring a PR firm (and I'll believe it when I don't hear it from a raving idiot like you), it doesn't mean it's to "make him look good." PR practitioners, like myself, facilitate communication. This situation has brought to light significant communications breakdowns at Appalachian. A PR firm would greatly help this situation and keep the lines of communication open in a mutually beneficial way. PLEASE go support your Holes and leave the Appalachian family forever.

  68. Murray

    March 28, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Fred, "The Tail Wags the Dog."

    As for Bonzo, got back to smoking your pot and calm down. It is probably true.

  69. Dr. Gonzo

    March 28, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Oh look at you taking hearsay as fact as usual. You really do believe every single thing you read don't you? First you jump on the rape allegation bandwagon and now "It is probably true" about a PR firm? I don't smoke pot, but it is clear to me that you are on some hard stuff. You're so naive, you'd probably take a sugar cube out of Charles Manson's hand. What dorm do you live in little girl?

  70. Murray

    March 28, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Dr. Bozo, you shoot others down to make yourself feel good. So sad that you live in your grandmother's basement jerking off on stupid crap. It is also disutrbing that you want to help cover up just so it does not affect the image.

  71. Dr. Gonzo

    March 28, 2012 at 10:15 am

    You must be an "ignoring information" Major. Throughout this mess, I've been lobbying that this matter to go to trial, a real trial in a real courtroom (ie the most fair system available). That is quite the opposite of trying to cover it up.

    Ironic that in the same sentence you call me Dr. Bozo (I liked Bonzo better) and then say that I put others down. I've only tried to educate you on due process, but I saw a long time ago that it is a lost cause. You are a proud member of any lynch mob that you get wind of; a "social activist" that is just one Facebook newsfeed check away from your next "cause." You and Fred need to go fall down some stairs.

  72. Appthunder90

    March 28, 2012 at 11:47 am

    In my opinion due process, the right to bear arms. and the extension of self-defense laws to include those arms are some of the most important rights that concern life as we know it. With these rights we can successfully defend ourselves from infringement on other rights. This is by design people. Wake up. Stop drinking media look aid. LOok at facts and decide for yourself.

  73. Zen

    March 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    one Facebook newsfeed check away from your next “cause.”

    Too funny Gonzo.

  74. ASU-LAW

    March 28, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Geez I feel like I'm being attached because i'm a lawyer…. never thought that would become a negative…kinda ridiculous no?

    There is not much to discuss at the moment regarding ASU sports… yeah baseball is doing well but its been discussed in great length already….give me something new ASU related and i will post about it. Until then I will continue to draw parallels to topis which have even the slightest relation to ASU, including the above as I compared it to the treatment of the ASU football players.

  75. hapapp

    March 28, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Sarcasm is sometimes hard to gather on a message board (I guess we all suffer like Sheldon in situations like this). I assume you were being sarcastic about being attacked because you are a lawyer. Is there a group that is on the receiving end of more jokes than lawyers?

  76. Dr. Gonzo

    March 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    I am a PR practitioner/aspiring law student (taking the LSAT in June). I've made peace with the fact that any career on which I embark will be the object of constant ridicule….

    Go App!!!

  77. Yogi86

    March 29, 2012 at 2:57 am

    No mention of Peacock in any of the spring practice reports? Please tell me we didn't lose him!!

  78. Dr. Gonzo

    March 29, 2012 at 5:11 am

    Peacock has a minor injury. He will be back for the season.

  79. JonW

    March 29, 2012 at 5:40 am

    ASU-LAW, there are no attacks being made, and I do apologize if my comments conveyed as such. I have worked for and with several attorneys, and my new business works very heavily with attorneys, so no attack would ever be made on anyone, especially in regards to their profession (unless it was a GSU coach). The only reason I was countering your posts on here is due to the fact that the discussion of those subjects has been driven into the ground repeatedly.

  80. appbeallyoucanbe

    March 29, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Looks to me like the Trayvon discussion has brought the Second Amendment, Stand Your Ground, We're the 1%, South Shall Rise Again, KKK Was a Force for Social Good crowd out of their closets. Let's go back to talking about football.

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